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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    Yup of course they care about margins... they balance in many things. I never said they were better just their choices about sensors will have been agreed a while back and I admit that cameras in smartphones have stagnated some what. But again... most people use the camera, just want ok pictures, and then share them in social media which thoroughly ruins them anyhoo. And the manufacturers know that.
    Huawei have a massive problem in that they can't get their phones any traction in the US market due to security concerns (that strangely Samsung and LG and HTC don't have) but they have overtaken Samsung in the key Indian market. But people still buy Samsung and Apple over them. It just proves that camera performance isn't all that (even though Samsung say the camera re-imagined)
    There was a discussion about merging a decent camera body with phone functionality a while back on here. I asked my mates in the phone sectors and they said that people are just not interested. They will buy a camera if they want a camera, a phone if they want a phone. Samsung/Nokia/Sony have all tried making phones with bigger sensors and the sales haven't' always backed up the r&d time and money.
    We shall see how the P20 Pro does, but I'm sure that it won't be a massive seller compared to some other devices - yes for many reasons
    As an aside - my mates in the phone industry said that the sales of the S9 haven't been stellar. Not a big of enough upgrade was the general consensus with one saying they did an Apple so you could be proved right and me fall flat on my rather large backside
    If I was picky - I prefer the Porsche Design version... but then it's price is not as appealing! I also didn't like the software experience last Huawei phone I tried. If I get a chance to try one before upgrade which I seriously doubt I could change my mind, but currently an S9 looks the preferred option for me - with a big reason being I have a Gear 360 which I'm going to hang on to
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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    The point is all these devices at £500+ are sold primarily on the strength of their photography capability,yet its a joke when they spend so little on improving them. You see me rarely criticising the cheaper sub £400 devices,since they don't spend so much money on pushing them as the "worlds best camera" which is almost snake oil levels of advertising. I mean Samsung actually makes sensors,so its not like they lack the technology to do so.

    Apple has so much money they could probably develop their own sensors.



    I mean FFS,the iPhone X has a bigger hump than the Huawei,and its a Huawei with a larger sensor main camera and THREE of them. Apple has so much money they could easily have done a better job - I honestly think if Steve Jobs was around still,we might have seen some awesome innovation in that regards.

    Edit!!

    Even in value its "better" than the iPhone X and S9 since its cheaper(but still expensive for a Huawei,let alone any phone) and you even get a pair of £300 Bose headphones thrown in from CPW,and its much cheaper on contract:

    https://www.techradar.com/deals/huawei-p20-pro-deals

    I honestly hope releases like the P20 PRO actually push Apple and Samsung to actually start innovating more - these £500+ phones should be making people go "wow" not "meh". Frankly,both of them should be embarrassed.
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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    Funny how they praise the notch for being minimal, fine if notches have been the norm for years but they are just the latest apple fad.
    What's next from apple a phone without a notch again and claim it's a revolutionary brave leap forward to remove it.

    Long live the large bezels that mean the screen is well within the chassis of the phone and not stuck to the outside of it.

    For me notched screen is a deal breaker

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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    S9 does innovate with the variable aperture, but I know what you mean. Samsung pushes the amoled screen and to be fair I think the screen looks much better than the P20. I'll say it again, they know that people are not that bothered about the camera - if the P20 comes out and sells bucketloads they'll change but I doubt it will. It's also about the software and the whole ecosystem these days - and I'm guilty of that with a Samsung telly and Gear 360. It would take far more for me to change than just a great camera as I have that side covered
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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    How much space does a lens take up compared to a sensor?

    The p20 looks quite good to me, but it doesn't get an OLED display unfortunately, only the too-large pro gets that.

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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    I've got an S8. Only a year old, but showing screen-burn. OLED's make for a brilliant display, at the cost of longevity.
    Specs-wise the Huawei looks like a great deal compared to the S9 or iPhone X.

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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    does the Huawei P20 use 2 speakers ? or is it just the one .. pic's are great and the cpw deal is fantastic just need my sound
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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmaheid View Post
    I've got an S8. Only a year old, but showing screen-burn. OLED's make for a brilliant display, at the cost of longevity.
    I've had a one plus X for over two years and it doesn't have even a smidgeon of burn in.

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    Mate, have you been living on a different planet for the last 5+ years? US and UK governments and corporations are the biggest violators of your privacy. On a daily basis they collect, process and sell your data to whoever pays more. Survailance 24/7. These are the fact. Who don't need Chinese for that. Aniti-chinese paranoya and scaremongering is mostly created by the US/UK conglomerates that don't want to lose monopoly in shafting you on a daily basis.

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    Re: Huawei unveils the P20 Pro with Leica optics and 40MP sensor

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I've had a one plus X for over two years and it doesn't have even a smidgeon of burn in.
    My mate who has an S7 or S8(can't remember which one it was) had the same issue - the problem is if you play games like Ingress or Pokemon Go,it can cause issues with OLED screens,since you have static images displayed in the corners.

    Quote Originally Posted by flearider View Post
    does the Huawei P20 use 2 speakers ? or is it just the one .. pic's are great and the cpw deal is fantastic just need my sound
    GSMarena says it has stereo speakers:

    https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p20_...news-30274.php

    Also I would check HUKD for the latest offers too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Huawei have a massive problem in that they can't get their phones any traction in the US market due to security concerns (that strangely Samsung and LG and HTC don't have) but they have overtaken Samsung in the key Indian market.
    Huawei didn't overtake Samsung in the Indian market that was Xiaomi.
    Huawei have barely focused on the Indian market, that will change now after Trump put the downer on thier carrier deal. Huawei has said they will now switch thier attention to the worlds 2nd largest smartphone market.

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