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    Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Service usage could improve responsiveness when you are using the internet.
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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Looks interesting. Worth checking out.
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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    As usual the stated numbers for response time are clearly a best case, I checked resolution of bbc.co.uk from 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8 (Google DNS) and 208.67.222.222 (OpenDNS) and all were 12-14ms consistently.

    I checked our company website, Dig indicated that none of the 3 had it cached, OpenDNS was the fastest at 14ms, 1.1.1.1 20ms and Google 38ms.

    This was done at work, on 100Mb Virgin fibre. I don't think I'll bother changing from Google DNS just for marginal benefits.

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    No human will ever notice the change in speed.

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    I ping 2ms to 1.1.1.1 and 8-9ms to 8.8.8.8 - woo Hyperoptic

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    My Virgin DNS goes down fairly regularly. Changed to 1.1.1.1 and not a single glitch today so far...
    Hardly a scientific conclusion but normally DNS would give up about 5 times on a normal working day
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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    My Virgin DNS goes down fairly regularly. Changed to 1.1.1.1 and not a single glitch today so far...
    Hardly a scientific conclusion but normally DNS would give up about 5 times on a normal working day
    While that's positive news I think it says more about Virgins DNS than Cloudflares.

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Been using it for the last 3 days, seems no better or worse to OpenDNS that I was previously using.

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    While that's positive news I think it says more about Virgins DNS than Cloudflares.
    Oh I know... worst DNS servers known to man. Work pc which is connected via homeplugs gets a 35ms ping. Was 85 with Virgin
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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    1.1.1.1 is just full of crap tho, too many users regardless and the moment it gets ddos'd its dead.

    id rather stay on 9.9.9.9 atleast it has a blacklist/whitelist function

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by Glyce View Post
    No human will ever notice the change in speed.
    Perhaps not one DNS response, but a single modern web page can generate dozens. Get a chain of 10 DNS queries in a row and 30ms becomes 0.3s which you can just about feel. Personally I run a house DNS cache to speed this stuff up as much as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sixiepoo View Post
    1.1.1.1 is just full of crap tho, too many users regardless and the moment it gets ddos'd its dead.

    id rather stay on 9.9.9.9 atleast it has a blacklist/whitelist function
    You know that CloudFlare are the CDN people you run to if you are getting slashdotted/DDOS'ed right?

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by Sixiepoo View Post
    ....the moment it gets ddos'd its dead.
    I thought one of the big selling points of Cloudflare was that it uses DDoS mitigation techniques. (EDIT: beaten to it by DanceswithUnix )

    Getting back to the articles premises that it's a 'privacy-first' consumer DNS, aren't things like DNS servers that don't keep a record of what sites someone visits potentially illegal in the UK now? I thought the Investigatory Powers Act required communication service providers to retain UK internet users' "Internet connection records".

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    ... Getting back to the articles premises that it's a 'privacy-first' consumer DNS, aren't things like DNS servers that don't keep a record of what sites someone visits potentially illegal in the UK now? I thought the Investigatory Powers Act required communication service providers to retain UK internet users' "Internet connection records".
    It probably depends on the exact definitions in the act, but logging DNS queries at the DNS service isn't going to provide any additional information compared to logging that query as it leaves your ISPs endpoints anyway. The request and response are still going to be recorded somewhere, as is your visit to whatever site you were looking up....

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    As usual the stated numbers for response time are clearly a best case
    Perhaps it would be best to check dnsperf yourself.

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    It probably depends on the exact definitions in the act, but logging DNS queries at the DNS service isn't going to provide any additional information compared to logging that query as it leaves your ISPs endpoints anyway. The request and response are still going to be recorded somewhere, as is your visit to whatever site you were looking up....
    The Cloudflare announcement says they suggest using dns-over-https as an option, in which case snoopers will only be able to see that you performed a lookup not the contents or results. Hopefully support for that protocol will improve with the extra visibility.

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    Re: Cloudflare announces 1.1.1.1 'privacy-first' consumer DNS

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ...in which case snoopers will only be able to see that you performed a lookup not the contents or results....
    I'm fairly sure CSPs are only meant to keep records of the websites people are visiting and not the contents, such as visiting https://hexus.net but not knowing what articles you looked at while there, i had assumed that would be done via keeping DNS lookup records as that, i assumed, would have been the easiest way to implement it.

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