Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 18

Thread: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    26,810
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1,651 times in 574 posts

    MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Electrodes pick up when you say words 'in your head', for intelligence augmentation.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    592
    Thanks
    53
    Thanked
    56 times in 36 posts
    • Kanoe's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Z9PE-D8 WS
      • CPU:
      • 2x Intel Xeon 2670 @ Stock
      • Memory:
      • Corsair Vengeance Arctic White 32GB (8 x 4GB) @ Stock
      • Storage:
      • 240GB SanDisk Extreme II System Disk, 960GB SanDisk Ultra Games Drive, 1TB Samsung F3 Backup Drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 295X2 OC @ Stock
      • PSU:
      • Superflower 1200W
      • Case:
      • Phanteks Enthoo Primo v2
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 28" ASUS PB287Q 4k + 24" Dell U2412M
      • Internet:
      • VM @ 350/20

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Still hasn't overcome the worst part of these wearable tech devices, that you look like a complete %^&* wearing one.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Smudger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    St Albans
    Posts
    3,351
    Thanks
    526
    Thanked
    438 times in 331 posts
    • Smudger's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gbyte GA-970A-UD3P
      • CPU:
      • AMD FX8320 Black Edition
      • Memory:
      • 16GB 2x8G CML16GX3M2A1600C10
      • Storage:
      • 1x240Gb Corsair M500, 2TB TOSHIBA DT01ACA200
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX Radeon HD4890 1GB
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520
      • Case:
      • Akasa Zen
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Home
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 24"
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 200Mbit

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    I do not want a record made of the things I say in my head.. No way.

  4. #4
    RGB Champion Ttaskmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Reading, UK
    Posts
    3,528
    Thanks
    101
    Thanked
    334 times in 283 posts
    • Ttaskmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock X79 Extreme4-M
      • CPU:
      • i7 3930K o/c to 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16GB 1866MHz DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer G&R
      • Storage:
      • Samsung Evo 120GB and Seagate Baracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte G1 GTX980Ti
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 1000W
      • Case:
      • Corsair Carbide 500R
      • Operating System:
      • Win10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Acer Predator XB270HU 1440 IPS GSync
      • Internet:
      • BT 0.7Mbps 'In The Sticks' version

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    I imagine this would be for people with certain difficulties?

  5. #5
    Senior Member Smudger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    St Albans
    Posts
    3,351
    Thanks
    526
    Thanked
    438 times in 331 posts
    • Smudger's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gbyte GA-970A-UD3P
      • CPU:
      • AMD FX8320 Black Edition
      • Memory:
      • 16GB 2x8G CML16GX3M2A1600C10
      • Storage:
      • 1x240Gb Corsair M500, 2TB TOSHIBA DT01ACA200
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX Radeon HD4890 1GB
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520
      • Case:
      • Akasa Zen
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Home
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 24"
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 200Mbit

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I imagine this would be for people with certain difficulties?
    Yeah, there could be that...

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Wonderful Warwick!
    Posts
    2,171
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    68 times in 55 posts

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    it wouldn't understand anything I say unless it had a dictionary based on grunts and swearing...
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

  7. #7
    Super Nerd
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Cambridge
    Posts
    1,773
    Thanks
    22
    Thanked
    105 times in 72 posts

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    So whilst that guy was wandering around the supermarket did they definitively answer the age old cliche of whether men think about sex every few seconds? Did his inner voice make lewd comments?

    Trivial example but if someone said such things out loud they would be guilty of harassment, 'hearing' the inner voice brings up all kinds of issues about thought crime and privacy. What if a disabled user says something with their inner voice that would not be meant for repeat in Steven-Hawking-voice that is then broadcast unintentionally...

  8. #8
    Headless Chicken Terbinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    7,284
    Thanks
    1,089
    Thanked
    672 times in 550 posts
    • Terbinator's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock H61M
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon 1230-V3
      • Memory:
      • Geil Evo Corsa 2133/8GB
      • Storage:
      • M4 128GB, 2TB WD Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX Titan
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX760i
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster 130
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell Ultrasharp U2711H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 60Mb.

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    What about stuff you're saying subconsciously?

    Minority Report right here.
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

  9. #9
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    53
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    8 times in 7 posts

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    It's obviously what will happen in the future. I mean the new tech overlords will have such devices embedded in their minds creating a neural/digital interface. That's why I find it funny that Elon Musk has closed a FB page over data harvesting. What does he imagine will happen when the interface is within our minds. As has always been the way new tech is tested and developed in conjunction with the military, so if the military want to create an enhanced soldier they will have to use the interface to change the perceptions of the soldier, ie: it will develop as a two way interface. I know Stephen Hawking was interested in this idea, but had got so used to his cheek switch interface it had become second nature.

    Men Against Fire(ep 5 sea 3 Black Mirror) explored the consequences of this idea. https://www1.gomovies.film/tv/black-.../?episode=7218

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    182
    Thanks
    57
    Thanked
    29 times in 19 posts
    • chinf's system
      • Motherboard:
      • 1: Asus M5A97 R2.0; 2: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0
      • CPU:
      • 1: AMD FX-8320E, Coolermaster Seidon V120 V2; 2: AMD PhenomII X3 710, Corsair H45
      • Memory:
      • 1: 16GB ECC DDR3L-1600; 2: 16GB ECC DDR3L-1600
      • Storage:
      • 1: Sandisk SSD, 4 WD, 1 Seagate, 1 HGST, 2 Toshiba HDDs; 2: Crucial SSD, 4 Samsung HDDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 1: HIS Radeon HD6850, Corsair H55 & NZXT G10; 2: MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB
      • PSU:
      • 1: be quiet! Straight Power 10 400W; 2: Antec EA500D
      • Case:
      • 1: Antec P182; 2: Antec Sonata
      • Operating System:
      • 1: Ubuntu 15.10 & 16.04; 2: Ubuntu 16.04 & Win10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 24" @1920x1080, Iiyama 18" CRT

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    There are enough internal verbalisations on the likes of Twitter!

  11. #11
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    53
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    8 times in 7 posts

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    I see these external devices as part of the development towards internal augmentation, not only in terms of development but also getting the public used to the idea. I think it would only function like a keyboard(ie: with a switch OFF). I think as our tech advances exponentially, direct control will increase the speed humans require to match the tech.

    I think it's exciting. Imagine when gaming grows up, using VR and entering another world where you control the character and get feedback through a neural interface. That's the future of entertainment and all simulators.

    All this idea of internal chatter is strange. I don't believe people would think or type ninety percent of what they do if there wasn't a medium that encouraged it. It interesting, companies can only supply tech, or a social media concept, and watch what people do with it. So I suppose the worst of human behaviour can get exaggerated if the medium suits that.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,237
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked
    72 times in 67 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z97MX Gaming 5
      • CPU:
      • i5 4690K @stock
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • Crucial MX100 512GB, 2TB storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12G-550
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 150 mb fibre

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    I'm still not sure how this works. Surely internal vocalisations don't leave your brain, so there's no nerve impulses to detect around the jawline? Or is this reliant on the user training themselves to make tiny motions of tongue & vocal chords without actually vocalising?

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Wonderful Warwick!
    Posts
    2,171
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    68 times in 55 posts

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    I'm still not sure how this works. Surely internal vocalisations don't leave your brain, so there's no nerve impulses to detect around the jawline? Or is this reliant on the user training themselves to make tiny motions of tongue & vocal chords without actually vocalising?
    If you read the article it says that electrodes pick up the brain signals whilst still in the brain
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,237
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked
    72 times in 67 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z97MX Gaming 5
      • CPU:
      • i5 4690K @stock
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • Crucial MX100 512GB, 2TB storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12G-550
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 150 mb fibre

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    If you read the article it says that electrodes pick up the brain signals whilst still in the brain
    1) Where?
    2) EEG from the jaw? Why?

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Wonderful Warwick!
    Posts
    2,171
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    68 times in 55 posts

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    1) Where?
    2) EEG from the jaw? Why?
    Underneath the first picture in the Hexus excerpt for starters! But yes - all a bit pointless
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,237
    Thanks
    180
    Thanked
    72 times in 67 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z97MX Gaming 5
      • CPU:
      • i5 4690K @stock
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @2133 11-11-11-27
      • Storage:
      • Crucial MX100 512GB, 2TB storage
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S12G-550
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 150 mb fibre

    Re: MIT AlterEgo wearable listens to internal verbalisations

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Underneath the first picture in the Hexus excerpt for starters! But yes - all a bit pointless
    Explaining how this device works in more detail, the MIT News blog reports that the wearable contains electrodes in the jaw and face areas that "are triggered by internal verbalizations — saying words 'in your head' - but are undetectable to the human eye". Machine learning has been leveraged so the system understands a certain array of useful vocabulary.
    The bolded bit implies that we're talking about conscious muscle activations, not a completely internal monologue

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •