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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    I'm going to have to wait until the next releases from intel and AMD to see if I want to upgrade my 3570k, hopefully ram, ssd and gpu prices can fall by then. Ryzen 1 was nice to see on release, but as time has passed and intel added more cores, if I had to buy one, I may have to reluctantly side with intel as a gamer. I would still need to think it over though.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    Nope, my 4+ years old FX-8320 system is still good enough and when it eventually does get replaced it will be because I want to move to an ITX sized box, be it Intel or AMD.
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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    1st Gen was enough to sway me.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smasher27 View Post
    1st Gen was enough to sway me.
    But I haven't made the switch yet. I might do it near the end of year or something.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    What they did for first gen ryzen was enough to sway me
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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    I built to Ryzen systems last year one Ryzen 3 and one Ryzen 5 for friends and family . both great systems. I am not in the market for a CPU at the moment as my pc is working well for 1080P gaming and may get a gpu upgrade later on in the year as i am limited by 2gb vram atm.

    My system is mostly used for gaming so wouldnt really need the extra multi tasking especially as I intend to get a server for the VMs i currently use on my current i7 system.

    I wouldn't rule out Ryzen thou.

    It is nice for AMD to be able to compete with Intel again and force them to stop trickle feeding.
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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    My main reason for ever upgrading is for gaming performance. Everything else still runs good enough for me, so I care little about it. Therefore because Intel still wins overall in gaming performance, I'd still use them in my 'next build'. As much as I'd like to support AMD, I'm not a charity, and performance is key rather than simply being 'good enough', since if I'm simply going for 'good enough', then my current 8 year old PC has that base covered.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    1st gen had me, 2nd gen still has me, DDR4 prices block me.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    Despite not really being in the market for a new system, I was already swayed by the first generation Ryzen processors. I crave ECC memory support for my system and just as earlier AMD doesn't make me jump through hoops to have that. With Ryzen 2 ECC even seems officially supported instead of "we've not validated it but it should work".

    Although a blurb in the manual for the ASRock Tai Chi X470 has me scratching my head a little.

    • AMD Ryzen series CPUs (Pinnacle Ridge) support DDR4 3466+(OC)/3200(OC)/2933/2667/2400/2133 ECC & non-ECC, un-buffered memory*
    • AMD Ryzen series CPUs (Summit Ridge) support DDR4 3466+(OC)/3200(OC)/2933(OC)/2667/2400/2133 ECC & non-ECC, un-buffered memory*
    • AMD Ryzen series CPUs (Raven Ridge) support DDR4 3466+(OC)/3200(OC)/2933(OC)/2667/2400/2133 non-ECC, un-buffered memory*

    * For Ryzen Series CPUs (Raven Ridge), ECC is only supported with PRO CPUs.
    Considering Raven Ridge is the APU series with integrated graphics it would've been clearer to refer to them as such and not as CPUs. Also, this apparently means the current Ryzen G desktop processors with integrated graphics do not support ECC. And ASRock seems to have outed the, to my knowledge, unannounced Ryzen PRO desktop APU series.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    For me its a no, but to each their own.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    Funnily enough, not too interested in the new CPUs (my OC'd ryzen 1700 @3.95ghz is plenty for now)
    But i am very interested in the new motherboard chipsets, specifically the Store MI tech...

    I currently use a cheap 128GB SSD to cache a 4TB HDD in software, via primocache, but it's flakey at best and has a tendency to reset the cache at random...

    I assume a gen 1 Ryzen CPU would work on a gen2 motherboard?

    And any news on mATX Ryzen gen2 motherboards? Seems to be ITX and ATX variants aplenty, not seen a mATX variant yet...

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    I would've bought a 1st Gen Ryzen if RAM and GPU prices were not obscene.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    ...What you're seeing is a $229 processor keep up with a rival $349 one... from the sentence we can see AMD is the clear winner. Although it lacks integrated graphics getting a $50 entry level graphics card (which performs way better than intel HD620) you still have cash left to get 4Gigs of DDR4.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    They had me at first gen. I only built the rig a couple of months ago, as I was waiting for the platform to mature (that and it was clear I needed a new machine with many cores for VMs), so I won't be going to second gen. I'll probably go straight to third gen.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    Quote Originally Posted by fail_quail View Post
    Funnily enough, not too interested in the new CPUs (my OC'd ryzen 1700 @3.95ghz is plenty for now)
    But i am very interested in the new motherboard chipsets, specifically the Store MI tech...

    I currently use a cheap 128GB SSD to cache a 4TB HDD in software, via primocache, but it's flakey at best and has a tendency to reset the cache at random...

    I assume a gen 1 Ryzen CPU would work on a gen2 motherboard?

    And any news on mATX Ryzen gen2 motherboards? Seems to be ITX and ATX variants aplenty, not seen a mATX variant yet...
    That does look interesting, I am also currently using an SSD cache using intel rapid storage and wanted to continue when I went Ryzen, problem solved.

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    Re: QOTW: Has 2nd Gen Ryzen done enough to sway you towards AMD?

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Considering Raven Ridge is the APU series with integrated graphics it would've been clearer to refer to them as such and not as CPUs. Also, this apparently means the current Ryzen G desktop processors with integrated graphics do not support ECC. And ASRock seems to have outed the, to my knowledge, unannounced Ryzen PRO desktop APU series.
    I think not calling them APU's maybe down to AMD, it seems they want to move away from that nomenclature.

    There's been Ryzen G Pro's since around January (Ryzen 3 PRO 2200G and the mobile variant PRO 2300U, Ryzen 5 PRO 2400G and the mobile PRO 2500U, and mobile Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U) so ASRock haven't outed anything, i guess they didn't receive much attention at the time as everyone was focused on the more mainstream SKU's.

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