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    Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Please let this be the start of gamers having their hobby back!

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilCycle View Post
    Please let this be the start of gamers having their hobby back!

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Already seen prices dropping on older cards second hand. Boom has ahem boomed I reckon!
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    AMD prices seem obstinately high still, is this another case of graphics==Nvidia? I can get a 1070ti way cheaper than a Vega 56 (£420 vs £540) which says to me that we don't yet have healthy competition in the AMD video card market.

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Who actually hikes the prices up?
    Is it Nvidia/AMD, the card manufacturers or the retailers like Scan?

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    AMD prices seem obstinately high still, is this another case of graphics==Nvidia? I can get a 1070ti way cheaper than a Vega 56 (£420 vs £540) which says to me that we don't yet have healthy competition in the AMD video card market.
    AMD are still better than nv for mining what is left of the market. I believe there are shortages still that have not filtered through but I'm hopeful prices will drop shortly
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by Namor View Post
    Who actually hikes the prices up?
    Is it Nvidia/AMD, the card manufacturers or the retailers like Scan?
    Most of this round of price hikes was due to miners buying 8 cards at a time causing shortages. Of course the manufacturers didn't hike production too much because they enjoyed the profits whilst they lasted
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by Namor View Post
    Who actually hikes the prices up?
    Is it Nvidia/AMD, the card manufacturers or the retailers like Scan?
    From what I've read (on this site and others) is that AMD is not generally adding to the price, but with high demand and stock passing through several distributors before it gets to the consumer the price has 'naturally' increased, supply and demand and all that. I've been holding out, initially as my 380X was still pretty new when the 480 came out, but then the prices shot up. I could really do with a 580 for my 2k screen but not when £400 is 'cheep'.

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by Namor View Post
    Who actually hikes the prices up?
    Is it Nvidia/AMD, the card manufacturers or the retailers like Scan?
    I believe AMD was willing and able to produce more GPUs with their manufacturing partners. However their board partners like MSI, Sapphire etc didn't want to buy extra GPU's because they were afraid of the mining bubble bursting and getting stuck with a huge inventory of old GPUs. The board partners were producing graphics cards going on demand from historical data instead of current market demand because of this bubble burst fear. This created the shortage.

    The distributors were getting fewer cards but the retailers were placing orders for ever increasing quantities. The price was simply set by supply and demand at this point. With retailers buying cards at a higher price then normal in order to secure stock.

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    AMD are still better than nv for mining what is left of the market. I believe there are shortages still that have not filtered through but I'm hopeful prices will drop shortly
    Just seems to be Vega that is really overpriced. Though there is odd pricing out there, overclockers are asking as much for a 4gb 580 nitro+ as the 8gb version, but £300 for the 8gb is only maybe £20 over the RRP of my wife's 480 before the prices went nuts.

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Just seems to be Vega that is really overpriced.
    I have to wonder why it's so expensive though, surely by now any supply issues should have been resolved for things like HBM etc, which was one of the reasons provided somewhere for the higher pricing. They had the price almost right at launch, then it just went up to stupid silly pricing.

    I will NOT buy a new card at the prices being asked currently, I just can't justify it. I mean, why would I pay that much for something, when I can just buy a console for less than that and have change spare?

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    I have to wonder why it's so expensive though, surely by now any supply issues should have been resolved for things like HBM etc, which was one of the reasons provided somewhere for the higher pricing. They had the price almost right at launch, then it just went up to stupid silly pricing.

    I will NOT buy a new card at the prices being asked currently, I just can't justify it. I mean, why would I pay that much for something, when I can just buy a console for less than that and have change spare?
    Overclockers seem to be one of the better suppliers atm, they have a choice of seen Vega 56 cards and all are in stock with most saying "10+" as stock level. The cards seem to be there, but most etailers don't seem to list them.

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-co...eon-rx-vega-56

    I have to wonder if the retailers have bought them at a marked up price from the channel and now have the shift them at that markup.

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    The reward will be halved this year for mining with gpu so we will see a drop off in prices going into 2019. The fear I have is AMD is promoting CPU for mining, will we see a sharp rise in their upper end cpu lineup?

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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    Quote Originally Posted by pp05 View Post
    The reward will be halved this year for mining with gpu so we will see a drop off in prices going into 2019. The fear I have is AMD is promoting CPU for mining, will we see a sharp rise in their upper end cpu lineup?
    Threadripper can be promoted for that and kept separate from the lower end Ryzen's. Yes I believe that the AMD supplies haven't got back down to a decent level as the drop is so soon they paid full whack and are reluctant to lose money. NV appear to be sold at more of a mark up and there is more wiggle room at present - we all know that mining has stifled a lot of innovation in this market as the artificial high prices mean they are reluctant to shift prices along and change things as people were just buying them anyway but I can see some sanity appearing of the news is to be believed. A 40% drop will force changes....just how long till they filter down is the issue
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    Re: Major graphic card makers to see shipments decline by 40 per cent

    In a nutshell, computer performance is lasting longer. My GPU is now 4 generations old and can still handle everything. Only people needing higher framerates/resolutions , or specific computation actually need to upgrade.

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