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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Anyone else think a massive invasion of privacy is a lot worse than letting 14 year olds do what there gonna do anyway? Oh no sex... My mum and dad never did that in their day!!!

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    We've not got much privacy left in the UK. Between having the most CCTV cameras in Europe, perhaps even the world, the investigatory powers act (aka:the snoopers' charter) keeping track of every website we visit, bulk collection of our communication data (emails, mobile phone locations, texts), hacking into our devices and the removal of encryption, privacy has been eroded to such an extent they may as well place cameras and mics in our homes.

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Another £10 tax by the government nannies, taking personal freedom and choice, for a few scarmongering numpties in politicis and interest groups! No thanks, will VPN to Holland, they still believe if freedom of choice and being an adult capbale of making decisions!

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    I guess the big grin didn't convey my sarcasm then.
    That only works if you were planning to use the £10 pass instead of tissues...!

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    there was a stigma to buying say playboy in a newsagents
    OFC there was a stigma to buying Playboy, the thing was full of articles on cars and stuff. You wanted at least Penthouse or don't bother

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    How is that anymore anonymous than the online system, you still need id.
    But you don't need that ID online, so the sites can't store it and sniffers can't sniff it (I mean, even if you have a keylogger installed, that won't get your credit card or passport number). So it's safer. Doesn't make the entire porn license a great idea, but if you put it against the idea of typing identifying information whenever you want to access a site, I think it's better.

    And really, I'd rather that kids get porn IDs illegally than try to get access to credit card or passport numbers.

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    We've not got much privacy left in the UK. Between having the most CCTV cameras in Europe, perhaps even the world, the investigatory powers act (aka:the snoopers' charter) keeping track of every website we visit, bulk collection of our communication data (emails, mobile phone locations, texts), hacking into our devices and the removal of encryption, privacy has been eroded to such an extent they may as well place cameras and mics in our homes.
    Oi, quiet, fool. You'll give them ideas. Cameras in our homs, indeed. Mind you, some people are enthusiastically doing it for them, already. Opt-in cameras.

    Though I have to say, much of that privacy loss is opt-in.

    Don't want them tracking mobile phone location? Don't buy a smartphone. Don't want them tracking even cell tower location, don't use a cell phone .... or use one that doesn't track back to you, and never EVER turn it on at home. Oh, and buy one with a user-replaceable (and therefore removable) battery.

    Don't want texts read? Don't use .... well, you get the picture.


    Of course, most (vast majority, probably) just put up with the loss of privacy either for the convenience, or because they haven't thought about it, or just don't care.

    CCTV cameras are harder to avoid. But you can minimise how much they see.

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by EN1R0PY View Post
    Anyone else think a massive invasion of privacy is a lot worse than letting 14 year olds do what there gonna do anyway? Oh no sex... My mum and dad never did that in their day!!!
    This is probably closer to the truth, essentially all they'll end up doing by this is making more kids go down the route of sexting each other using snapchat (or whatever it is the kids do / use nowadays), with more implications and downsides than browsing rubbish on the internet.

    Probably not a very well thought out policy, nothing new there then.

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Ahh, I remember the days of top shelf jazz mags. Where boobies were considered harmful to younguns eyes.

    Now the youths can buy a £10 Pornhub access, next to the Debenhams and Argos gift cards. You couldn't make this stuff up

    Still, turn off Strict Search on Chrome and hey-presto, pr0n -a-plenty All for free (@Smudger told me how do do this, honest)
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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Tumblr has also become a fetid porn underground, you can find nearly anything on there...

    Will tumblr need an age restricted pass on it? (Other than it needing to be torched to the ground anyway)

    This comes around as they have a sensitive mode which kicks in on most photographic tumblrs, but using google, you can use Amp to bypass it!

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Midas View Post
    Ahh, I remember the days of top shelf jazz mags. Where boobies were considered harmful to younguns eyes.

    Now the youths can buy a £10 Pornhub access, next to the Debenhams and Argos gift cards. You couldn't make this stuff up

    Still, turn off Strict Search on Chrome and hey-presto, pr0n -a-plenty All for free (@Smudger told me how do do this, honest)
    Say what now? When did I do that? I certainly wouldn't know how to do that. Apart from this one time...

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Midas View Post
    ....

    Now the youths can buy a £10 Pornhub access, next to the Debenhams and Argos gift cards. You couldn't make this stuff up

    ...
    Well, we're going on minimal-detail rumours in one newspaper about that, but even that suggests that passes will only be on sale to those that can verify their age first, apparently by producing ID like passport, driving licence, etc. So it's not (reportedly) as easy as junior raiding his/her piggybank for £10 in 20p coins and heading for WH Smiths.

    Of course, as always, the devil is in the detail. How will the verification system work? What ID? What hardware might shops need?

    And "kids" have never, ever been known to buy fake ID off the net (or whatever) to get into clubs and newsagents, I'm sure, would never consider selling underage people booze, fags .... or passes. No, couodn't happen. Surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Well, we're going on minimal-detail rumours in one newspaper about that, but even that suggests that passes will only be on sale to those that can verify their age first, apparently by producing ID like passport, driving licence, etc. So it's not (reportedly) as easy as junior raiding his/her piggybank for £10 in 20p coins and heading for WH Smiths.

    Of course, as always, the devil is in the detail. How will the verification system work? What ID? What hardware might shops need?

    And "kids" have never, ever been known to buy fake ID off the net (or whatever) to get into clubs and newsagents, I'm sure, would never consider selling underage people booze, fags .... or passes. No, couodn't happen. Surely?
    Well, how many of us older folk saw it in our youth, not via purchase routes, but because mate of mate's dad left some in the loft, and mate of mate got hold of it and brought it round to the saturday megadrive fest? Just as with physical mags, it'll be careless stewardship of the code by more apathetic parents that will allow the dutiful circulation of knowledge with the wider audience. And that's before anyone learns about proxies, VPNs or the like. I'm not against the aim to protect minors, but as ever, this could well end up a pointless exercise, and probably a costly one at that. Time will tell, but I'd be amazed if this was the catch-all that some champion it to be.

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Well, how many of us older folk saw it in our youth, not via purchase routes, but because mate of mate's dad left some in the loft, and mate of mate got hold of it and brought it round to the saturday megadrive fest?
    What I never understood in my youth was how come so many of those mags ended up in hedges in the local countryside. Were they poorly hidden, thrown out of passing car windows or what?

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Well, how many of us older folk saw it in our youth, not via purchase routes, but because mate of mate's dad left some in the loft, and mate of mate got hold of it and brought it round to the saturday megadrive fest? Just as with physical mags, it'll be careless stewardship of the code by more apathetic parents that will allow the dutiful circulation of knowledge with the wider audience. And that's before anyone learns about proxies, VPNs or the like. I'm not against the aim to protect minors, but as ever, this could well end up a pointless exercise, and probably a costly one at that. Time will tell, but I'd be amazed if this was the catch-all that some champion it to be.
    Agreed. But my point was that we don't really know what this "buy a pass in a newsagent" involves.

    Will it work? Like most things tech-related, the tech community are two steps (or more) ahead .... and kids are two steps ahead of the tech community. So, no, probably not.

    That said, there's a qualitative, and certainly quantitative, difference between what "kids" might find sneaking a peek in a mag they found (in a hedge or otherwise) and what's available to anyone with a internet device and marginally more savvy than "ask Google". Or, so I'm told.

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    Re: UK newsagents to sell £10 passes for adult site access

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    That said, there's a qualitative, and certainly quantitative, difference between what "kids" might find sneaking a peek in a mag they found (in a hedge or otherwise) and what's available to anyone with a internet device and marginally more savvy than "ask Google". Or, so I'm told.
    Sadly there definitely is some weird, nasty, (and very graphic) stuff out there. Hence I do think it's right to try and shield children, and frankly clueless adults too, from it. There is a condition amongst therapists called the "porn death spiral", not literal death, but rather progressive desensitisation and therefore the need for more and more extreme content to get the same dopamine thrill. People can end up literally unable to get it up and be excited by normal activities in the bedroom with real people. Quite tragic.

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