Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Gaming laptop RAM is 39 per cent more energy efficient than Samsung's 16GB RAM modules.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Xlucine's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,151
    Thanks
    295
    Thanked
    186 times in 145 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus TUF B450M-plus
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @ 3.2 Gt/s
      • Storage:
      • Crucial P5 1TB (boot), Crucial MX500 1TB, Crucial MX100 512GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Fractal Design ION+ 560P
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10 pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production



    "64GB active mode standard"? Are they comparing 4 16GB sticks to 8 8GB sticks?

  3. #3
    Moosing about! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    31,693
    Thanks
    3,777
    Thanked
    5,076 times in 3,918 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    All this talk about higher speed and more efficient RAM is fine,but means diddly squat for most people in the realworld if it isn't affordable,as people are more constrained by costs(as are OEMs) and the Samsung PR bumpf seems to ignore costs. If this ends up costing more than similar speed RAM on an older node,it will only see relatively niche applications. Most OEMs will stick to cheaper RAM based on older technology.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 30-05-2018 at 10:35 AM.

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Posts
    100
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    10 times in 8 posts

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    All this talk about higher speed and more efficient RAM is fine,but means diddly squat for most people in the realworld if it isn't affordable,as people are more constrained by costs(as are OEMs) and the Samsung PR bumpf seems to ignore costs. If this ends up costing more than similar speed RAM on an older node,it will only see relatively niche applications. Most OEMs will stick to cheaper RAM based on older technology.
    Like Apple, still using DDR3........

  5. #5
    Two Places At Once Ozaron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Sometimes UK
    Posts
    638
    Thanks
    86
    Thanked
    34 times in 33 posts
    • Ozaron's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI X570 Unify
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Patriot Blackout @ 3800 CL16
      • Storage:
      • Toshiba X300 4TB (2), Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire 5700XT, Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic M12-II 620w
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 500D
      • Operating System:
      • W10 Enterprise 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Gigabyte G27QC
      • Internet:
      • 2.5 MB/s ↓ 0.86 MB/s ↑ ~20ms

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Quote Originally Posted by Glyce View Post
    Like Apple, still using DDR3........
    Are they?

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Wonderful Warwick!
    Posts
    3,919
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    183 times in 153 posts

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Yup Macbook Pro still on LPDDR3 for instance
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

  7. #7
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,164
    Thanks
    803
    Thanked
    2,152 times in 1,408 posts

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Isn't that because of Intel and CPU support?
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    3,526
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    468 times in 326 posts

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    "64GB active mode standard"? Are they comparing 4 16GB sticks to 8 8GB sticks?
    Two 32GB sticks vs four 16GB, active mode is basically not idle.

    Something not mentioned in the article (unless i missed it skimming through) is that this isn't 10nm, it's 10nm "class", something that Samsung defines as a process node between 10 and 19 nanometers.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Wonderful Warwick!
    Posts
    3,919
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    183 times in 153 posts

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Isn't that because of Intel and CPU support?
    Partly because of cpu choice yes. It's also probably because they get a great deal on the ram as well though
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

  10. #10
    Senior Member Xlucine's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,151
    Thanks
    295
    Thanked
    186 times in 145 posts
    • Xlucine's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus TUF B450M-plus
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB @ 3.2 Gt/s
      • Storage:
      • Crucial P5 1TB (boot), Crucial MX500 1TB, Crucial MX100 512GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 980ti
      • PSU:
      • Fractal Design ION+ 560P
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08-E
      • Operating System:
      • W10 pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Viewsonic vx3211-2k-mhd, Dell P2414H

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Two 32GB sticks vs four 16GB, active mode is basically not idle.

    Something not mentioned in the article (unless i missed it skimming through) is that this isn't 10nm, it's 10nm "class", something that Samsung defines as a process node between 10 and 19 nanometers.
    Yep, I got confused by Gb chips Vs GB sticks

  11. #11
    I'm special azrael-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    1,073
    Thanks
    66
    Thanked
    113 times in 92 posts
    • azrael-'s system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Prime X470-Pro
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
      • Memory:
      • 64 GB ECC DDR4 2666 MHz (Samsung M391A2K43BB1-CTD)
      • Storage:
      • 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO, 12 TB WD HDDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • eVGA GTX 1080 SC Gaming, 8 GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic X-Series 560W
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 550D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Acer Predator XB271HU
      • Internet:
      • VDSL 55/12 Mbit/s

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    The 2nd slide is so great it needs to be used twice?

  12. #12
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    45
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    4 times in 4 posts

    Re: Samsung 10nm-Class 32GB DDR4 SoDIMMs in mass production

    Actually all this talk about "higher speed" means diddly squat whilst random access latencies stubbornly remain around the 40-50ns mark that it's been sitting at for the last 15-20 years.

    Whoever can get _THAT_ down will rule the silicon world.

    All the Rube-Goldberg/Heath-Robinson workarounds for that latency (massive local caches, pipelining, etc) have come with significant downsides - and as we've seen more recently some of those include major security vulnerabilities.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •