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    Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    larrabee attempt 2 10 years on. Will these actually see the light of day for retail?

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    larrabee attempt 2 10 years on. Will these actually see the light of day for retail?
    Hopefully yes, I could do with a laugh

    To be fair the i740 did make it to market some 20 years ago, it just wasn't very quick but I guess good enough to get integrated into chipsets and then evolved into cpus where it still isn't very quick despite using quite a lot of a modern cpu die.

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Didn't they tell us 10nm would be coming in 2014? It's still not here.
    Koduri might make a difference, but his Vega effort whilst at AMD was less than stellar.

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Now that they have bought the tech in via AMD, I am expecting them to produce something decent. Intel have a good foundation in fabrication, combined with tried and tested IP from AMD, they should create something good......should....
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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    I wonder how much of the co-operation on the intel/AMD APUs was just to fill out their address book for later headhunting?

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    I wonder how much of the co-operation on the intel/AMD APUs was just to fill out their address book for later headhunting?
    That's what i think, Intel are just playing house with AMD to work out who to pinch and how to bend the boundaries just enough to make a lawsuit on infringement take a million years to complete.

    Can you tell I'm cynical?

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Now that they have bought the tech in via AMD, I am expecting them to produce something decent. Intel have a good foundation in fabrication, combined with tried and tested IP from AMD, they should create something good......should....
    They don't need a snapshot of AMD's IP though. The most valuable thing Koduri could give Intel is a nod at where their existing graphics cores need to change in order to scale better. That might even be down to hearing a bunch of existing Intel engineer's ideas, and pointing at the ones to listen to.

    Give a man a graphics core and he can render today, teach a man to make graphics cores, oh I don't know where I'm going with that but I suspect you get the idea...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    That's what i think, Intel are just playing house with AMD to work out who to pinch and how to bend the boundaries just enough to make a lawsuit on infringement take a million years to complete.

    Can you tell I'm cynical?
    I suspect it was just a way to shut Nvidia out of mainstream laptops. Those guys really hate each other.

    It might also help to keep Apple from making laptops with their own ARM based cores (supposedly Apple have been pushing Intel hard on graphics performance).

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Given Raja seems to be the one responsible for AMD focussing on a one-size-fits-all vega chip, and a mid range bulk sales Polaris, allowing Nvidia to do whatever they want... I dont have high expectations that he will direct Intel straight into the high end gaming GPU war.

    Seeing as the new super computer in the USA is made up of IBM CPUs and Nvidia V100 GPUs, I think Intel is probably thinking about how to get a slice of that cake.

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    I think now we get more insight into what Nvidia wanted to do with GPP,as Intel is a threat now,and maybe one they were more concerned with it as Intel has deeper pockets than AMD. Having said that having the graphics market back to a three way fight might be not such a bad thing.


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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Given Raja seems to be the one responsible for AMD focussing on a one-size-fits-all vega chip, and a mid range bulk sales Polaris, allowing Nvidia to do whatever they want... I dont have high expectations that he will direct Intel straight into the high end gaming GPU war.

    Seeing as the new super computer in the USA is made up of IBM CPUs and Nvidia V100 GPUs, I think Intel is probably thinking about how to get a slice of that cake.
    You don't make a supercomputer from polaris chips, no matter how hard miners try. If intel wants to compete with the V100, then the obvious thing to do is launch a blue titan to battle for the high-end (probably using chips with defective AI-accelerating fixed function blocks). OK, titan-class cards are arguably not gaming cards anymore, but it's definitely a high-end fight

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    I'm not saying they are going for super computers with Polaris, I'm saying Rajas track record isn't that of a man who will guide you to the top of the gaming benchmarks, and that probably isn't what Intel have planned anyway.

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    Yeah, I don't see this working well with Raja at the helm. I'm not sad that AMD is shot of him, as whilst he's a nice guy, he overpromised and underdelivered.

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    Re: Intel's first discrete graphics chips will be available in 2020

    It will probably not be a gpu relevant to gamers and it will probably be something with an intel equivalent of tensor cores for deep learning etc.
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