Re: Streaming services overtake pay TV in the UK
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Iota
Well if the BBC stopped paying over the odds for presenters, maybe they could put that into original programming. As to what they define as original, too much reality TV rubbish, no more decent sitcoms etc. Can't imagine why they are losing viewing figures, perhaps it's to do with the rubbish they all produce.
The BBC are obliged by the terms of their charter to produce content for the whole TV audience whether that be high-brow arts and science programmes or terrible game shows and everything in-between. The BBC produce more content, for a wider audience than any other broadcaster in the UK and, don't forget the online services and all the educational work they do.
As for presenter pay, the BBC pay a lot less than the commercial TV companies.
Re: Streaming services overtake pay TV in the UK
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peterb
But hardly rubbish...
I didn't mention educational programs as rubbish...
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Wozza365
BBC shouldn't have any of those programmes. Period. It shouldn't be paying for broadcast rights for expensive sports events either. It's taxpayer funded, and someone who doesn't want to watch BBC content but something else has to pay the BBC £150 a year. Reduce BBC's expenses further, cut all expensive comedy shows and sports events and replace them with smaller events that give more people an opportunity to be on TV. Eg a League 2 game instead of top tier and a local comedy club instead of Michael Mcintyre's biggest events. Replace overpaid hosts and stars on almost all shows and replace them with promising student actors/hosts etc. Then increase funding into educational programmes.
Then cut the TV tax significantly, as it will be a service that can benefit the nation and not just those that want to watch bad TV shows.
Also sell the rights to major TV shows and offer a refund to previous TV tax payers.
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Friesiansam
The BBC are obliged by the terms of their charter to produce content for the whole TV audience whether that be high-brow arts and science programmes or terrible game shows and everything in-between. The BBC produce more content, for a wider audience than any other broadcaster in the UK and, don't forget the online services and all the educational work they do.
As for presenter pay, the BBC pay a lot less than the commercial TV companies.
When I mention "they", I didn't mean for it to be taken as me singling out purely the BBC as producing "rubbish reality TV programs". Perhaps should have made that a little more clearer in my original post to avoid confusion.
I definitely don't mean educational programs, I meant programs such as these...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ion_programmes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ion_programmes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ion_programmes
In regards to the BBC comments directly, I think Ofcom have pretty much got things covered in what the BBC is required to produce in their 2017 report. However, they definitely don't need to pay presenters these sorts of salaries;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44792074, regardless of how they perceive the value of those presenters, as pointed out they could recruit new and upcoming presenters for a fraction of those costs. That isn't good value for money.
Re: Streaming services overtake pay TV in the UK
I wouldn't so much mind the BBC paying their presenters as they do if most of thrm weren't clueless talentless idiots. That applies especially to political commentators, with Newsnight topping the list of idiots. They turn a half-decent idea into nearly unwatchable garbage with their egos and arrogance. The worst, IMHO, is Evan Davies. When will he realise that want we want to hear is the guests, not the idiot presenter. The number of times he asks some long, rambling question, by the end of which I've not only lost track of the point, but lost the will to live, but then says "I mean .... " and launches into another long, rambling soliloquoy restating in different words what he's just asked. I timed one of these once at 66 seconds, with the bemused guest sitting there with a WTF expression on his face. Then, about halfway through an answer, he cut the bloke off and said "We have to stop there, we're out of time". No s.... poop, Sherlock. And why exactly do you suppose that would be? Idiot.
Now, I record Newsnight and mostly skip the presenters. Why? Because I have a new-ish TV, and don't want to throw a brick through it.
Ironically, on his radio interview slot, Davies is pretty good. Succinct questions and let the guests get an answer in.
What is it about Newsnight that instantly causes presenters to run off at the mouth and let their brains drip out of their ears? It's as if the moment the ontro ceases, they all tirn into 5th rate, clueless, Paxman wannabees.
Re: Streaming services overtake pay TV in the UK
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3dcandy
As replies to the above - Sky broadband is OK. It's pretty cheap. Talk Talk however complaints are on the rise and they are the most complained about broadband supplier by far. Sky Q seems to be just too expensive, however as a Virgin customer here with 200 meg broadband and 2 x Tivo V6 boxes I don't enjoy paying £100 a month but the missus does get full use of it and we have a nice projector/surround sound setup in 1080p that looks awesome. So for us, although it's expensive I feel it's just about acceptable. Our broadband is about 265 meg down as well ;)
Not surprised about TalkTalk. But they are also all over radio/tv.
Am considering getting rid of Sky. Football is spread out over many channels.
The only thing is once you invest in Netflix, Amazon prime and the other one... you end up paying same.
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3dcandy
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Wozza365
BBC shouldn't have any of those programmes. Period. It shouldn't be paying for broadcast rights for expensive sports events either. It's taxpayer funded, and someone who doesn't want to watch BBC content but something else has to pay the BBC £150 a year. Reduce BBC's expenses further, cut all expensive comedy shows and sports events and replace them with smaller events that give more people an opportunity to be on TV. Eg a League 2 game instead of top tier and a local comedy club instead of Michael Mcintyre's biggest events. Replace overpaid hosts and stars on almost all shows and replace them with promising student actors/hosts etc. Then increase funding into educational programmes.
Then cut the TV tax significantly, as it will be a service that can benefit the nation and not just those that want to watch bad TV shows.
Also sell the rights to major TV shows and offer a refund to previous TV tax payers.
So then you will have to pay to say watch the world cup with a subscription, because if the BBC does as you suggest all the other channels will become subscription. The BBC would exist for just news and historical content and no new content would be made by them. They would also be forced to probably drop the other channels and just be BBC 1. I'd imagine that all the radio channels would disappear as well. Is that such a good idea?
Yes, there should be little new content made, except educational. I don't believe they should be paying to broadcast the world cup out of tax payers money, unless TV tax became optional. Yes a lot of channels would be dropped in the process, but I would certainly continue the support of local radio stations.
And someone else pointed out paying for education as an example of paying tax for something I may not use. Education benefits everyone, most of the stuff on the BBC just rots brains.
Re: Streaming services overtake pay TV in the UK
Interesting topic all.
I am thinking of getting a share in a Netflix Ultra sub. Might be £4 monthly maybe a little less. Can anyone tell me if that would be workable on a roughly 20mbps ADSL connection (PlusNet - though they do seem to be getting perhaps slightly slower recently :/ )
Re: Streaming services overtake pay TV in the UK
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Millennium
Interesting topic all.
I am thinking of getting a share in a Netflix Ultra sub. Might be £4 monthly maybe a little less. Can anyone tell me if that would be workable on a roughly 20mbps ADSL connection (PlusNet - though they do seem to be getting perhaps slightly slower recently :/ )
Doubtful, I've not used 4K Netflix but 4K YouTube would use between 30-40mbps. No idea what Netflix uses but probably similar.