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    Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    This teaser video is the first post on a new @IntelGraphics Twitter account.
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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Looks very Vega 64 esque

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    intel teases exit from discrete graphics cards (again) for 2021
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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Looks very Vega 64 esque
    Yes I wonder if they got some 'ideas' when they implemented the AMD GPU... Certainly could have afforded to have pinched enough engineers from AMD!
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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Hard to see how Intel will manage to find a space in a highly competitive market which Nvidia and AMD seem to be filling.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ftfy
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...the_vega_m_gl/

    LMAO,no way to report driver bugs even though Intel is in charge of drivers for the Vega M GPUs they use. They really need to put more effort in driver support.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Well they already do add-in coprocessors, probably not much work required to rejig these to being more output and consumer focused.

    And with nvidia adding an integer processor to their RTX chips, that's treading on CPU toes.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    RAJA now has access to billion of dollars and worlds most advanced fabs lets guess what he will come up with.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    RAJA now has access to billion of dollars and worlds most advanced fabs lets guess what he will come up with.
    An AMD product?

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    I.m sure they'll get there eventually but I doubt the 1st,2nd or 3rd generation of their cards will trouble the top end Nvidia GPU's of 2020.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    Well they already do add-in coprocessors, probably not much work required to rejig these to being more output and consumer focused.
    Those add in co-processors are essentially a lot of Atom cores on a single chip. They're not going to accelerate modern game engines to any meaningful extent. Far more likely that they're starting off from the cores in their IGPs and seeing if they can scale them up to large GPUs

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    And with nvidia adding an integer processor to their RTX chips, that's treading on CPU toes.
    Not convinced that follows. CPUs do a lot more than just a few basic integer calculations. The whole point of GPGPU is that the GPU is a simple but very wide processor that's ideal for running simple instructions over and over again. There's a definite progressive logic to adding dedicated INT processing in the same vein. I mean, theoretically you've been able to run INT calculations on a GPU since GPGPU first started - you'd just have to cast to floats and back, and you'd risk some inaccurate results due to precision and rounding. Adding native INT cores to a massively parallel processor just makes those calculations quicker and more reliable. It doesn't change the principle that you're doing simple parallel tasks repeatedly, rather than interpreting complex branch logic...

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Intel is being squeezed from multiple angles with regard to its CPU output; Arm looks to have won the mobile war (and via Qualcomm is pushing into Cellular PCs), and AMD is competing very fiercely for consumer PCs and the lucrative x86 workstation and server market.
    It would make more sense for them to keep focus on AI specific products, but I guess the offshoot of that is to start treading into both Nvidia and AMD areas in terms of multiple gpu cores for other markets. I just don't see the sense in them committing to discreet desktop graphics cards, especially as they'll also have to do a lot of legwork for drivers and building up that platform, as well as additional resources for developers etc etc.

    Certainly they could, but it's a big risk when there are already two well established players in the market. Be cheaper for them to buy Nvidia

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Looks very Vega 64 esque
    All that video and picture tells us, is that it may be black, you can't even see how many fans it has.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    especially as they'll also have to do a lot of legwork for drivers and building up that platform, as well as additional resources for developers etc etc.

    Certainly they could, but it's a big risk when there are already two well established players in the market. Be cheaper for them to buy Nvidia
    But aren't Intel already the top graphics provider by volume? It's only discrete cards that they lag on, but I don't know why drivers for discrete cards would be that much harder or resource taking than for chips.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    But aren't Intel already the top graphics provider by volume? It's only discrete cards that they lag on, but I don't know why drivers for discrete cards would be that much harder or resource taking than for chips.
    Someone did a really good explanation why this isn't relatable but I'm struggling to find it so I'll paraphrase what I remember. They used the terminology that the on die GPU shares a lot of the co resources as the CPU as well as it not connected in conventional means. So therefore just carving it off and scaling it up won't really work because that GPU silicon running on the CPU is designed to be scaled down and within an inch of its life for max performance. It would be an interesting precedent if a product that was designed to be small and sip power bolted to a CPU could be detached and scaled up to a dedicated card territory.

    From what I understand, the design used in the Intel HD on chip GPUs just aren't suitable for breaking out and scaling up, it just wasn't designed with that in mind.

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    Re: Intel teases discrete graphics card for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    It would be an interesting precedent if a product that was designed to be small and sip power bolted to a CPU could be detached and scaled up to a dedicated card territory.
    Nvidia created a graphics unit that they could put into Tegra mobile & tablet chips, and also use it in their desktop cards to great effect. So it can be done, but the difference here is that Nvidia are good at doing graphics whereas I doubt Intel can pull off the same trick.

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