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    Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    iPhone XC brings colour, Razer Phone 2 gets an SD845, Huawei's AI "cheats" in benchmarks.
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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    When Anandtech spoke to Huawei they basically admitted it and said that they did it because everyone else does and if they didn't then their devices would look awful in reviews comparing scores. THAT is a far more realistic and understandable reason compared to the "AI" excuse. They also said that they would like to work with the industry to standardise benchmark protocols to ensure realistic scores were used.

    EDIT: The title of this article is perhaps also potentially misleading. I read it as the iPhone and Razer phone had been caught cheating as well as Huawei. The former two might not appreciate that.

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    EDIT: The title of this article is perhaps also potentially misleading. I read it as the iPhone and Razer phone had been caught cheating as well as Huawei. The former two might not appreciate that.
    Agreed I had a similar comment. That said however since they probably do all cheat anyway maybe it's not so misleading

    nothing else exciting here really - Apple continues to repeat their past mistakes (waiting for them to announce a 201x equivalent of the 90's newton, so we know they have *really* run out of ideas ) , Razer launches another phone that absolutely no-one cares about, and a major <insert_market_here> manufacturer gets caught out cheating. Sounds like a normal day in 2018

    edit: interesting just how true this quote rings for Apple. Just replace "macintosh" with iPhone, and "90s" with 2000s. RIP Steve Jobs.

    "By the mid nineties Apple was a shadow of its former self. With few exceptions, Apple products had become overpriced and uninspired; the majority of the product line consisted of indistinct rehashes of the 1984 Macintosh, with relatively minor improvements. Competing products beat the Macintosh in almost every aspect, save maybe for style, typically at a significantly lower price."

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    Yet another reason to look at the current "AI" craze with apathy and skepticism if all it does is look for a particular string to determine whether to cheat. I wonder what "AI" Huawei have in their magical AI powered cameras.

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    Quote Originally Posted by ilh View Post
    Yet another reason to look at the current "AI" craze with apathy and skepticism if all it does is look for a particular string to determine whether to cheat. I wonder what "AI" Huawei have in their magical AI powered cameras.
    Making a "blue sky" over saturated, and removing any freckles from my girlfriend's face. I'm only mad about one.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    In brief it was claimed that the SoC's AI was so smart it detected a benchmarking app and ran in a 'performance mode'
    Wasn't so smart at detecting a benchmarking app with the references to it being a benchmarking app removed though

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    It's about time that they criminalise the use of enhanced/misleading benchmarks. You see this everywhere and it's a real problem, well at least for those who actually believe them...

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    Quote Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob View Post
    It's about time that they criminalise the use of enhanced/misleading benchmarks. You see this everywhere and it's a real problem, well at least for those who actually believe them...
    If you're going to criminalise misleading marketing you're going to be very busy.

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    If you're going to criminalise misleading marketing you're going to be very busy.
    Indeed.

    Personally, I'd start with "up to xMeg" broadband speeds, and "up to 50% off" retail claims.


    Note: Both the above types of claims might be legal, within legal definitions of advertising claims, but IMHO, whether legal or not they are overtly and deliberately designed to be "misleading".

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    Re: Smartphones: Apple iPhone XC, Razer Phone 2, & Huawei cheats

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