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    Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    But if using a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti with RTX On it is “just playable” at 40fps, says report.
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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Nvidia, doing their utmost to send PC gaming back to the stone age of sub 60 fps and 1080p.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Nvidia, doing their utmost to send PC gaming back to the stone age of sub 60 fps and 1080p.
    Yes and stick as much property tech in PC games so as to make my AMD rx480 unusable! Junk like hairworks and phyxs needs to die. Plenty of non-nvidia specific alternatives available that will work equally well across all cards.
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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Nvidia, doing their utmost to send PC gaming back to the stone age of sub 60 fps and 1080p.
    They'll spin it like this... people who want to spend over 1K on a single GPU now have the option to do so and won't have to worry about SLI. On top of that, their 4K gaming monitors will scale perfectly to 1080P and therefore provide the optimal experience of high frame rates on a 4K monitor.

    They probably will say that n'all!

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Oh I dunno, NVLINK is very much SLI reborn - I don't think they're opposed to you buying another card

    More on topic - this does look very nice and it's hardly surprising to see a Metro game bringing hardware to it's knees!

    However, I'm not sure this qualifies as 'same as' Physx/hairworks since DXR is part of DirectX12 - so what stops AMD supporting it?
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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Turn RTX off and enjoy a 30% odd boost over a 1080ti, RTX is cool and all but it can be turned off and the cards will still be faster than the old gen.
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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    Turn RTX off and enjoy a 30% odd boost over a 1080ti, RTX is cool and all but it can be turned off and the cards will still be faster than the old gen.
    30% performance for 200% of the price? What a steal!

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Usernamist View Post
    30% performance for 200% of the price? What a steal!
    Wouldn't it be 130% performance for 200% of the price?

    Regardless, when you look at it like that you can see NVidia have totally lost their grip on pricing realities this time around.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    No wonder they're sticking with SLI, albeit a re-branded SLI.

    Buying two 2080Ti's is the only way you'll ever see 60fps again with all the gubbins turned up to 11.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    Buying two 2080Ti's is the only way you'll ever see 60fps again with all the gubbins turned up to 11.
    If the game supports SLI properly!
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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    On 4K resolution probably get 50fps. With RTX on, forget about it......

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Usernamist View Post
    30% performance for 200% of the price? What a steal!
    The price is what it is. The performance will be what it will be. Take it or leave it. Nobody is forcing you to buy any GPU. Nobody in this thread was claiming the 20 series is value for money.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Honest question, if NVidia actually cares about bringing ray tracing to the forefront of game technology, wouldn't they be better off making a daughter board full of the RT Cores? Surely with a daughter board that is GPU vendor agnostic, you can stuff significantly more RT cores?

    Basically, Ageia's PhysX card, but not crappily underpowered and can be useful.

    Also, as great as ray tracing is, if a developer actually wants to use ray tracing, why not use an engine more suited for it?

    The Unigine Superposition benchmark/demo features SSRTGI - Screen Space Ray Tracing Global Illumination. It's a fantastic technology that looks incredibly good when the shader is set to the high setting. Not only that, but when I had my GTX 970 (Before it shorted out =(), it would run that benchmark at above 40FPS at all time.

    A GTX 970, with ray tracing done right and well, over 30fps at 1080p.

    I really dislike how NVidia is shoehorning this crap in games when there could be better ways to do it and go about it and it's pretty sad that companies are eating it up.

    They're too big and honestly need to get pushed into the mud.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    RTX is new tech and I think it'll be at least one more generation before it's worth it.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    RTX, bringing conslow gaming to PC.

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    Re: Metro Exodus includes RTX, Hairworks and Advanced PhysX

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadia View Post
    Honest question, if NVidia actually cares about bringing ray tracing to the forefront of game technology.....
    Arguably they're not, they may say publicly that it's about bringing ray tracing to gaming but IMO it's more about trying to keep 'gaming' and 'professional' card technology relevant to both market segments, it's about preventing the divergence of two different design goals, making the demand for AI and ray tracing dedicated ASIC's on GPUs from professionals relevant to gamers (maybe I'm being cynical though and they really are doing it for altruistic reasons).

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