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    Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Providing an industry standard to make use of its RTX hardware in DirectX 12.
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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Naked I came from my mother’s womb,
    and naked I will depart.
    The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away;
    may the name of the Lord be praised.

    So they've given me ray tracing, what component is going to magically stop working with this update I can not avoid?

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    So they've given me ray tracing
    Whoop-de-do-da-day.

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    what component is going to magically stop working with this update I can not avoid?
    For this very reason I delay significant updates.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    The Lord gaveth Windows 10 for free. The Lord made Windows 10 break things with regular plagues (updates). The Lord in His wisdom then took away the ability to boot directly into safe mode.

    Just for background, the quote is from the book of Job where God makes a bet with the Devil to see how far he can push Job by basically taking everything from him bit by bit.

    Probably including all the marketable metadata he can suck from everything that passes through Job's Windows 10 machine.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    It is just an un-needed api, i ain't no coder though i'd guess the api's feature set could have just been ported over into Dx12. Nevermind, it'd seem it is integrated itno DX12

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

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    But note that Nvidia also reminds us that the introduction of GeForce RTX 20 Series GPUs was ‘seismic’ and a ‘revolution for the games industry’.
    "Look! Microsoft is entertaining our gigantic corporate ego! This gives credence and validity to our claims about the value of our latest, unpopular products, and thus credence and validity to the prices we charge for them!"

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    Probably including all the marketable metadata he can suck from everything that passes through Job's Windows 10 machine.
    As if any of these three parties were previously unaware of Job's online shopping habits. But none appear to be free of dreary administrative spying duties..

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    ............where is the Red Team in the wake of all these real time ray tracing phenomena

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    The Lord took my sight.

    Installed update and my monitor won't display anything in the Windows environment. GPU driver issue, certainly.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    They have it in development, it is opensource alongside Vulcan

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Interesting video about Ray Tracing by AdoredTV on YT.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrF4k6wJ-do

    Worth a watch if you wanna learn more about it

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    ............where is the Red Team in the wake of all these real time ray tracing phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by PC-LAD View Post
    They have it in development, it is opensource alongside Vulcan
    Technically speaking i can't see any reason why DXR wouldn't work with Radeon as it's just another form of a regular compute workload, what the performance would be like is another question entirely though, I'm not even sure we have any performance figures for how any (consumer and/or professional) cards from either manufacture perform real-time ray tracing when using Vulkan (OpenGPU) let alone DXR.

    It'll be interesting to see how AMD cards compare with Nvidia when DRMSS is turned off in both DirectX (DXR) and/or Vulkan.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if AMD cards worked better with ray tracing than the new Nvidia cards...

    I hope AMD can refresh their GPUs to make them less toasty as mine is incredibly noisy to the point of stupidity.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    ............where is the Red Team in the wake of all these real time ray tracing phenomena
    Quote Originally Posted by PC-LAD View Post
    They have it in development, it is opensource alongside Vulcan
    Technically speaking i can't see any reason why DXR wouldn't work with Radeon as it's just another form of a regular compute workload, what the performance would be like is another question entirely though, I'm not even sure we have any performance figures for how any (consumer and/or professional) cards from either manufacture perform real-time ray tracing when using Vulkan (OpenGPU) let alone DXR.

    It'll be interesting to see how AMD cards compare with Nvidia when DRMSS is turned off in both DirectX (DXR) and/or Vulkan.
    Without dedicated hardware it may not work well, i guess that Microsoft just prepared a middle-ware API, so it will only abstract the hardware capabilities. Therefore, yes you will run it on any hardware that is compatible. It may even run on any hardware, but the performance figures wont be nice for cards without dedicated circuits which seems obvious.

    Having the API seems to be a big leap towards feature adoption. That;s good, as the feature itself seems to ease the graphic development and in the same time increase graphic immerse. It will probably requires additional circuits to resolve it, but in the end we will benefit someday.
    And yes, the price for RTX is idiotic, I hope the red team will come with their open implementation which will become a standard.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    This is a new API which really needs new hardware to drive it, a fresh start in graphics.

    Who probably has the most experience in ray tracing? That is probably Intel. If they are on the ball, we should expect a ray tracing card from them. They seem to be bringing their B-game at best atm though, so I'm expecting the ball to be dropped.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein:_Ray_Traced

    Edit:

    Sounds like Intel use a lot of Knights Ferry cards in a cloud to do 1280x720: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVZDH15TRro

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I hope AMD can refresh their GPUs to make them less toasty as mine is incredibly noisy to the point of stupidity.
    My Vega56 is really rather quiet, but then the card so big I had to remove some drive bays from the case to get it to fit.
    Last edited by DanceswithUnix; 04-10-2018 at 07:53 AM.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Quote Originally Posted by DevDrake View Post
    Without dedicated hardware it may not work well, i guess that Microsoft just prepared a middle-ware API, so it will only abstract the hardware capabilities. Therefore, yes you will run it on any hardware that is compatible. It may even run on any hardware, but the performance figures wont be nice for cards without dedicated circuits which seems obvious.
    It will probably work really badly, IIRC i watched a YouTube video that ran that Stormtrooper demo on something like a 1080, 2080 and something else and the 1080 was getting around the 5-6fps mark, how much of that is down to the way Nvidia typically designed older gen cards, specifically off-loading some of the scheduling tasks to the CPU, and the new way of doing things WRT ray tracing is another question.

    If current gen AMD cards can achieve even half the FPS that a 2080 can without DLSS being turned on I'd be impressed.

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    Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    If current gen AMD cards can achieve even half the FPS that a 2080 can without DLSS being turned on I'd be impressed.
    Last time I checked 6 months ago AMD cards were slower than Nvidia ones using the software fallback layer,despite according to AT the AMD cards having "intermediate" hardware support. The issue is DXR has been developed with Nvidia to a degree AFAIK,so I think AMD really needs to push,otherwise even if their cards are better than Pascal,it won't be reflected in benchmarks.


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