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    AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    A regular RX 580 comes with 2304SPs. Is the new SKU a 'bait and switch' tactic?
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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Fail.

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    ... even calling it something like a RX 575 would be pushing the lines of acceptability. ...
    tbf the entire 500 series should've been called the 4x5 series, per AMD's own description of their naming scheme. But then the naming scheme didn't even last one generation (cf no suffixes v RX 470D in China).

    That said, this is a relatively bog-standard move for the Chinese market. It may even have been one of the OEMs selling into China that asked to do this, rather than it being an AMD-driven initiative.

    That said, it makes no sense and AMD shouldn't be allowing this kind of nonsense as it (IMNSHO) devalues the brand. *SIGH*

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    I really dont like when they do this crap .it just confuses new buyers

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Ngh, they're all at it.

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    See, you're saying its just a 570 but i see this as a cut down 580 for the chinese internet cafe market.

    Edit: although looking closer at the specs it really is pretty much the same
    Last edited by Tabbykatze; 16-10-2018 at 12:52 PM.

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Could this be the rumoured RX 670 for release last weekend?

    https://forums.hexus.net/hexus-news/...h-weekend.html

    Edit: I wonder if the Rift VR software would accept this as an RX580 and not complain that the board was under spec like it would with an RX 570?

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    If polaris beats a 1060 why not Re-brandion? (offcoz gtx2060 won't be ridiculously faster and will miss the RTX goodies)

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    If polaris beats a 1060 why not Re-brandion? (offcoz gtx2060 won't be ridiculously faster and will miss the RTX goodies)
    not true, all nvidia cards using turing will be able to utilize ray tracing. People also forget that AMD also have raytracing but have yet to implement it into games or showcase a demo as it is open source on vulcan

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Quote Originally Posted by PC-LAD View Post
    not true, all nvidia cards using turing will be able to utilize ray tracing. People also forget that AMD also have raytracing but have yet to implement it into games or showcase a demo as it is open source on vulcan
    2060 and below won't have dedicated ASICs for ray tracing so they'll have to utilise software defined tracing. Historically AMD has had better performance in sofrware based rendering on general purpose hardware. Whereas Nvidia has had a habit of over using resources to perform similar effects.

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    While they do make clear what it is, there are people who won't know better and have been told 'RX580 is good' for whatever they are doing, buy this after seeing the big 'RX580' printed on the box and then end up short changed since they didn't know what the 2048SP stood for.

    Bad AMD bad. *smacks with rolled up newspaper*

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    2060 and below won't have dedicated ASICs for ray tracing so they'll have to utilise software defined tracing. Historically AMD has had better performance in sofrware based rendering on general purpose hardware. Whereas nVidia has had a habit of over using resources to perform similar effects.
    #nVidia GameWorks. So Does this lead you to believe Maxwell ect will have software based RayTracing

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Most things have software based ray tracing, i mean it's really slow but even an aging Athlon or P3 could do it, all having dedicated hardware does is makes it faster.

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    Re: AMD selling the Radeon RX 570 as an 'RX 580 2048SP' in China

    Quote Originally Posted by PC-LAD View Post
    #nVidia GameWorks. So Does this lead you to believe Maxwell ect will have software based RayTracing
    Everything has software based RayTracing, it will just be slower or faster depending on the type of hardware. Your CPU can do software based RayTracing, it's just very slow because it's not optimised for vector based calculations.

    My HD4870 can do software based RayTracing, it will be just dog slow.

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