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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    2700X IMO, there might be faster CPUs in single core tasks and multicore tasks, but it's hard to beat that priceerformance, it doesn't have so many cores that hardly any software knows what to do with them, and all around being sanely priced.
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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    2700X. When it came out I assumed, probably like most did, that it'd be a cheaper, slower alternative to Intel. Never in a million years did I think we'd be at this point now, where it's literally half the cost of the Intel equivalent, and only a few percent slower.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    From a Gaming perspective the 8700K, from a generalist, best of both worlds, the Ryzen 2700, from an all out productivity perspective, the Threadripper 2950x...Just my thoughts...

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Depends single core or multi-core for single definitively intel i9 9900K but its very expensive For Multi-core and in my opinion the Threadripper 2990WX

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    It's got to be Ryzen for me. AMD have got so much performance out of these cpu's for such a reasonable price. Intel on the other hand are still stuck on the same Skylake architecture, suffering from shortages and the prices have jumped to ridiculous levels even for Intel. Even though the unlocked 9*** k series are soldered they are still very hot and benefit from delidding. For such expensive cpu's it's just not acceptable. Roll on next year and Zen 2, then maybe I will finally have a worthwhile upgrade path.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Sadly the mobile Ryzen APUs were launched in 2017, otherwise they'd top my list for packing a previously inconceivable amount of hardware into a 15W TDP.

    In 2018, I'd probably go for their desktop big brother, the Ryzen 5 2400G. It wasn't that long ago (Feb 2017, in fact) that 4C/8T was the pinnacle of mainstream desktop CPU offerings, and now you can get it at < £150 with effectively an £80 GPU thrown in. That's a 2013 mid-range gaming PC in a single 65W chip. Kudos, AMD.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Threadripper 1 and 2 core count and threads impressed the hell out of me. Ryzen has been amazing so far. Price vs performance. Very good deal.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Wake me when Intel hits 10nm and spectre/meltdown fixed, or AMD hits 7nm with watts less than Intel with acceptable perf.

    Until then, I'll wait. Nothing excites me now as they are both NOT giving what I want yet; 10nm vulnerability fixed, or 7nm amd. I hope AMD prices right on 7nm. Meaning if you are winning perf in EVERYTHING (games should be doable at 7nm vs Intel 14nm for a year), you better price it LIKE OR ABOVE Intel. I'll sell my stock if you don't. Yeah, I'm talking being OK with paying some extra cash to make sure AMD lives, not because I like them, but because if the chip is good I need no discount for crapware. Don't make the mistake (again, and again) of pricing like a turd when you have a rose.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Same comments as Tabbykatze "Threadripper 2990WX", although, following the hype, it's also my most disappointing with the actual performance. I think AMD have been so far ahead of the curve with this release that they're exposing constraints in modern OSes.

    All without Spectre/metdown issues!

    It would've been interesting to see Intel release a product with the same cores/threads to see how they compare and whether it's an architecture issue on the core scaling or if it's something else....
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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

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    Second place will go for ARM Cortex-A76 as this is small (but noticeable) step into PC market which will may in the future disown Intel Atom like processors.
    Lets be honest here, ARM is not reinventing the wheel with these CPUs. They do and use all the same tricks that Intel and AMD used many years ago plus some new tricks. But as a whole the new Cortex A76 is just A75 with more units here and there.
    They can go so low in power only because they have a very streamlined ISA, they don't have all the stuff required for HPC that desktop CPUs have and are built from the ground up (buses, memory controllers, etc) to consume as little power as possible. But technically, mobile CPUs don't have anything special at the uArch level compared to what Intel has on their CPUs.
    No doubt the x86 is more complicated - but that is also its weakness. Just looks on the recent x86 vulnerabilities that were discovered. And that is just the pinnacle. just check how many undocumented commands are on modern x86 CPU or at the commands that doesn't work as documented.
    Summing up, the current x86 arch is a mess, and because of huge "installment dept" it will be insanely hard to fix.

    Having said all above, still the Zen architecture is great thanks to it modularity, however deep inside single module you won't find amazing changes. Cortex-A76 is a single core, that you can stack and create CPU. Apples and Oranges.
    The ARM is catching up fast, both with the clock and with average performance per core per MHz.

    I would want for x86 to be always the king of performance, but it is unlikely in current state where all legacy instruction sets are carried to the new architecture updates, and the main companies working against each other.

    Intel stalled the x86 market for so long that even biggest x86 software companies (just see MS) acknowledged ARM. 2017 was ARM servers boom! They are still a minority in the server world, but they are there already. Money also seems to be on the ARM side thanks to the mobile.

    Lets see what will happen when VIA joins the x86 again.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by DevDrake View Post
    The ARM is catching up fast, both with the clock and with average performance per core per MHz.
    Their cores actually seem pretty good, but usually get paired with slow low power dram busses and small cache sizes and implemented on a low power process.

    You can buy some pretty powerful ARM chips for server use, but they cost 100s of pounds for the chip so as a hobbyist x86 is just cheaper.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Threadripper 2990X. The fact that mere mortals can own a processor with 32 cores, which was the domain of corporates, is staggering. The fact this even exists, on air cooling too, is a testament to the utter boffinry of the AMD engineers.
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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Intel i9-9900K

    Whats truly impressive is the audacity of Intel to expect consumers to pay a premium for so little in the way of improvement over predecessors or competitors

    I think my next build will feature an AMD and that date is getting closer and closer.
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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by DevDrake View Post
    I think we still get Epyc 48/96 and Ryzen 16/32 this year, and the then the Ryzen will be my choice for the crown.
    I don't think we'll see a 16 core Ryzen this year. I don't expect to see AMD release any more 14nm or 12nm CPUs other than possibly some low end product line fillers (say, $50 to $75 parts to kill off the last of the previous generation APUs and CPUs), or maybe a binned 2800X with higher clocks. They're not going to be doing a new die at that node. (I believe there are only three Ryzen die designs so far: first generation, APU, and second generation. The APU die is also used for the mobile and embedded versions.)

    We might see 16 cores in 2019 using the 7nm process. They'll be able to cram in more cores with the move to the smaller node.

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    Re: QOTW: Which is the most impressive CPU of 2018?

    I'm going to go with a Threadripper as well. But instead of the 2990WX I'm going to go with one that makes more sense for most home users: the 2950X. Still lots of cores for rendering, plus better gaming performance than the 2990WX. (The problem with poor gaming performance because of the cores with no direct access to RAM hasn't been fully solved, other than booting into gaming mode with those cores turned off.) And it's the fastest processor you can buy for less than $1000.

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