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    Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    It doesn't even need a click from most users as it uses adaptive risk analysis technology.
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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    "I am not a robot"
    What if I am, but don't know I am?
    It happens, you know... I've seen it on TV and everything.

    "by returning a score to tell you how suspicious an interaction is and eliminating the need to interrupt users with challenges at all".
    So by spying on what I'm doing and figuring out if I'm dodgy, I assume...?

    Le sigh...

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Pretty sure Google is convinced I'm a robot by now.

    I'm constantly bombarded with challenges like "select all images containing street cameras" or "what is the 32nd root of 4294967296?". Like any human would know that one.

    *beep*

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Quote Originally Posted by afiretruck View Post
    Pretty sure Google is convinced I'm a robot by now.

    I'm constantly bombarded with challenges like "select all images containing street cameras" or "what is the 32nd root of 4294967296?". Like any human would know that one.

    *beep*
    Glad to know I'm not the only one!

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Half and half here... what I mean is some sites I'm deffo considered a risk and others don't give a stuff!
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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Oh joy v3, v2 is bad enough, I'm forever needing to 'prove I'm human' multiple times.... v1 was fine it worked every time and v2 can be upto around 10 'tests', I'll expect this to never work until we tell google everything about ourselves and they can sell our information to their advertising buddies.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Have you ever tried using Google services whilst connected via TOR? It gets... upset that it can't track you and the computer really does say "no". In very obnoxious terms sometimes....

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Quote Originally Posted by afiretruck View Post
    Pretty sure Google is convinced I'm a robot by now.

    I'm constantly bombarded with challenges like "select all images containing street cameras" or "what is the 32nd root of 4294967296?". Like any human would know that one.

    *beep*
    Another one here too. It wouldn't surprise me if they are being discriminatory towards rival browsers, as it seems to be much more confident about me not being a bot when using a Chromium-derived browser.

    So here's hoping that v3 actually treats browsers (and the people using them) equally to those using Chrome/Chromium.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Frictionless User Experience = Nonsense. Recaptcha is a really dumb system that immediately forgets if you've passed a challenge and regularly throws up images that have no relation to the item(s) it asks you to select.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    What about cyborgs...?

    But honestly, didn't they promise "frictionless interaction" with v2 as well? I must be really abrasive since there tends to be quite a bit of friction between me and reCAPTCHA checks.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Just a rant on recaptcha - any time I sign in to PSN I have to do the image challenge, usually finding the bus, crosswalks or traffic lights.

    On the traffic lights it's not clear if it's just the boxes they want, or the whole thing including the poles. Either way, I'm always wrong.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Quote Originally Posted by pa1nkiller View Post
    Frictionless User Experience = Nonsense.
    Not if you work in the adult entertainment industry...

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    What about cyborgs...?
    What about them?
    The younger ones are the bastard half-blood children of errant deviants who have corrupted programming and gone out of spec. The older ones are just indecisive pansies who lack the capacitors to go all the way... I bet they all have 3½" floppies!
    I'm still not using neutral pronouns for them, though!!!

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Well, regulars here know I'm not exactly a Google fan. To the extent that I suggested if North Korea's "little rocket man" wanted to test his long range missiles, he could do the world a fsvour and drop one on Google HQ. As far as I'm concerned, is Satan has a 21st century incarnation., it'd flook pretty much like Google.

    So .... not a fan.


    However, this sort of 'AI' is the way of the future, IMHO, for not just website access via reCaptcha, but for next-gen security products like AV and Firewalls because ecisting products, especially at consumer level, are incressingly just not going to cut it.

    It's not do much the fault of software, but more that for AV and especially firewalls to work optimally, they need to be set up correctly and about 99% (or more) of consumers couldn't accurately and optimally set up a firewall if their lives deoended on it. And their financial and personal-privacy "lives" really do.

    The online world is definately shark-infested waters, and most users are big, fat, juicy targets.

    So, welcome to the future. AI security products. Skynet, here we come.


    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to close the door in the Faraday cage in my private bunker.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Honestly the only time reCAPTCHA goes further than asking if I'm a worthless fleshy bag, is when I've typed in the credentials to some online account incorrectly; and it therefore punishes me with at least 8 rounds of selecting objects which don't quite perfectly fit in image squares (as mentioned above, I must be wrong for the majority of the time... somehow) only to return me eventually to the login box I was never meant to make it past anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
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    Can you put in a good word for me with your contractor? I'm a bit short on cash and soon to be short on time to get comfortable. I need at least enough time to set up the MOC parking area..

    Quote Originally Posted by Output View Post
    Another one here too. It wouldn't surprise me if they are being discriminatory towards rival browsers, as it seems to be much more confident about me not being a bot when using a Chromium-derived browser.

    So here's hoping that v3 actually treats browsers (and the people using them) equally to those using Chrome/Chromium.
    I would've assumed that Chrome and its variants simply collect and prepare more user data for the check than other browsers feel necessary, so you pass more easily.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    I would've assumed that Chrome and its variants simply collect and prepare more user data for the check than other browsers feel necessary, so you pass more easily.
    Perhaps, I have no idea if that is the case or not though.

    It is said that if you are logged into a Google account (for example, perhaps you have GMail open in another tab or just stay logged in for personalised search results) at the time, it usually results in an instant confirmation that you are not a bot after ticking the box.

    Naturally I'd rather not go that route, for the obvious privacy reasons as I'm sure it would be all too easy for them to collect what sites you have visited and had to use reCAPTCHA to get through, with it being linked into your account and used to determine something.

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    Re: Google reCAPTCHA v3 provides "Frictionless User Experience"

    Quote Originally Posted by Output View Post
    Perhaps, I have no idea if that is the case or not though.

    It is said that if you are logged into a Google account (for example, perhaps you have GMail open in another tab or just stay logged in for personalised search results) at the time, it usually results in an instant confirmation that you are not a bot after ticking the box.

    Naturally I'd rather not go that route, for the obvious privacy reasons as I'm sure it would be all too easy for them to collect what sites you have visited and had to use reCAPTCHA to get through, with it being linked into your account and used to determine something.
    Personally I avoid Google like the plaque. I refuse to have a Google account, won't use Gmail, and never use Google search.

    Besides when I did look, a while back, at Gmail (long story, but I needed a quick & dirty email account for about 30 minutes (and I wasn't either at home or on a device I own) I couldn't even create a gnail a/c without giving it a phone number and there's no way in the steaming, putrid fires of hell I will EVER give Google my phone number.

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