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    Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Event comes in wake of AMD 7nm advances and rival’s desktop CPU share rising to 13%.
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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    AMD:we have architecture!!

    INTEL: you thought AMD had architecture we have architecture too!!

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    What a surprise!

    Not to be pessimistic but I'm expecting more guff about 10nm, firing shots at AMD and a roadmap full of holes.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    To be honest I absolutely love it when a company as large as Intel is basically running scared of the little guy (AMD) purely because they've been complacent and sitting on their hands and milking their current cpu's instead of making real progress with them (they're still trying to do it now...)

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    What a surprise!

    Not to be pessimistic but I'm expecting more guff about 10nm, firing shots at AMD and a roadmap full of holes.
    Well, I'll remain pessimistic in regards to Intel. They're already late delivering on 10nm, by a considerable margin. They're haven't delivered anything really new in terms of cpu design for a long time and essentially all we've seen is incremental updates alongside requirements for new motherboards or sockets pretty much every other generation. Don't even get me started on platform segregation or "independent benchmarking" marketing...

    Contrast that with the developments from AMD. Intel need to focus on the basics and start learning some lessons.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Time to find out what Jim Keller's been up to.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    I wonder how many of Intels shareholders went "so what have you got, huh?" and that's when this was announces.

    I bet Intel were expecting a slightly improved Zen+ with 64 cores for Epyc 2. Then AMD slapped a major architectural revamp, massively improved (theoretically) I/O, pcie 4.0, clocks and IPC.

    All in all, AMD has had a brilliant announcement that really does speak well for AMD and the future in the server market.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    I bet Intel were expecting a slightly improved Zen+ with 64 cores for Epyc 2. Then AMD slapped a major architectural revamp, massively improved (theoretically) I/O, pcie 4.0, clocks and IPC.
    This is something I've wondered about for a while. Are any of these announcements from Intel/AMD really a surprise to the other? With so many engineers working on this stuff for year+ lead times, samples being made and the slides presumably going through marketing/legal departments etc...I'm not suggesting anything too shady but with so much at stake surely the broad design is an open secret at best? Then again, Intel do seem to have spent much of the last year rushing responses out in a panic so maybe I'm wrong...

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky123 View Post
    This is something I've wondered about for a while. Are any of these announcements from Intel/AMD really a surprise to the other? With so many engineers working on this stuff for year+ lead times, samples being made and the slides presumably going through marketing/legal departments etc...I'm not suggesting anything too shady but with so much at stake surely the broad design is an open secret at best? Then again, Intel do seem to have spent much of the last year rushing responses out in a panic so maybe I'm wrong...
    You'd be surprised how well controlled these documents are. Coupled with the ability to track who opens what and for how long, it will be quite easy to work out potentially who was the leak.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    Time to find out what Jim Keller's been up to.
    Jim's work results will be seen in a few years time. They will probably detail Ice Lake and Cascade Lake AP.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Hey everyone!! we're going to tell you all about how our future CPU's will be faster than anything AMD will have.

    ...of course we wont mention that it will all be about 30-50% more expensive.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    ...of course we wont mention that it will all be about 30-50% more expensive.
    Irrelevant if they are 2 years late.

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    Re: Intel schedules Forward Looking Architecture Event for 11th Dec

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    To be honest I absolutely love it when a company as large as Intel is basically running scared of the little guy (AMD) purely because they've been complacent and sitting on their hands and milking their current cpu's instead of making real progress with them (they're still trying to do it now...)
    I keep seeing comments saying in general that they're running scared, but I'm not sure that's the case if they can raise the price of their mainstream and get away with £600 for what would have been an i7. That seems like confidence to me.

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