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    Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Meanwhile, Sony is rumoured to be building an octa-core AMD Ryzen powered PS5.
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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Oh, so an *optical* drive-less machine. Was wondering for a minute how you could make a modern console without a hard drive in it, other than putting a large SSD in there.

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    So in other words, their disc-less Xbox One is fulfilling their original vision of basically having no second-hand sales, which they had to backtrack on.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Oh, so an *optical* drive-less machine. Was wondering for a minute how you could make a modern console without a hard drive in it, other than putting a large SSD in there.
    To be fair, it did say disc not disk. I always associate the former with optical media anyway, so I read it as expected.

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    We recently bought an Xbox One S purely for the 4K Blu Ray disc drive, with it being the cheapest 4K Blu Ray player we could find (£130 on Gumtree in immaculate condition). Does this mean that the next generation of consoles are likely to no longer be the "all in one media centres" that they currently are?

    4K streaming on Netflix has a loooooong way to go before it's as good as a 4K HDR Blu Ray.

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    This also goes hand in hand with the whole Xbox Game Pass program as well. More and more people are starting to move to digital only purchases only. Even when you buy a physical copy, everyone knows you gonna have to do that day 1, 20GB update. So internet isn't a problem. It only really affects people who make use of the 2nd hand market. They have to really give a compelling price for this to work. Lets say £150 with 6 months game pass

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt_Custard View Post
    everyone knows you gonna have to do that day 1, 20GB update. So internet isn't a problem.
    Its still a problem for peeps with slow internet, im on <8mbit

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by rabidmunkee View Post
    Its still a problem for peeps with slow internet, im on <8mbit
    Well let's hope that Microsoft and Sony carry on their current system of releasing several versions of their consoles. Obviously, cutting the price for those that never buy discs is a good idea, but like yourself, many people still aren't on superfast, or even fast, internet.

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Output View Post
    To be fair, it did say disc not disk. I always associate the former with optical media anyway, so I read it as expected.
    OMG I had to Google that. Being reasonably old and from the UK I tend to use "disc" to describe all round flat items, including magnetic storage media, from before CD being a thing. I had no idea that the Phillips "Compact Disc" trademark had actually stuck for optical media.

    So a blu-ray, despite not being a CD, uses the European "disc" spelling despite other storage deriving from IBM's work in America often being called "disk". Had optical media been invented in the States they would all be called "disk" which for me makes it a bizarre convention, though still makes more sense than "fewer" vs "less".

    Thanks for the education, though being British and stuck in my ways I will no doubt continue to just use "disc"

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    It makes sense for the future, no point producing packaging or discs but it's slightly sad for the second hand market. Never understood why I usually manage to find an actual copy of a game cheaper than a downloaded copy though.

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Thanks for the education, though being British and stuck in my ways I will no doubt continue to just use "disc"
    Thank You, but you give me too much credit.

    Being a Brit too, I actually assumed that it was a generally accepted difference based simply on my own preferences, not based upon any evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    Well let's hope that Microsoft and Sony carry on their current system of releasing several versions of their consoles. Obviously, cutting the price for those that never buy discs is a good idea, but like yourself, many people still aren't on superfast, or even fast, internet.
    I'd be interested to know if using a console is already impossible without internet at a practical level. Say a publication buying an xbox/playstation bundled with a primarily single player game such as RDR2 and seeing if they can set it up without a connection.

    No OS updated no MS/Sony account and no day 1 patches. Would it work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    I'd be interested to know if using a console is already impossible without internet at a practical level. Say a publication buying an xbox/playstation bundled with a primarily single player game such as RDR2 and seeing if they can set it up without a connection.

    No OS updated no MS/Sony account and no day 1 patches. Would it work?
    On a slightly related note to that; I saw someone post this on the Reddit a couple of weeks back.



    His internet had gone down, so he decided to watch a Blu Ray instead of relying on Netflix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    His internet had gone down, so he decided to watch a Blu Ray instead of relying on Netflix.
    Was it a matter of having to activate the feature first (and thus once-only), or was it a case that it applies to every single attempt to play a Blu-Ray or DVD?

    I could understand the former, even if I'd prefer it wasn't necessary, as I'd assume it would mean that a licence fee gets paid to relevant companies for every activation. But if the latter, it would mean it turns playback into a sort of always-online DRM, rendering one of the reasons for choosing physical media over streaming as impossible for that player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Output View Post
    Was it a matter of having to activate the feature first (and thus once-only), or was it a case that it applies to every single attempt to play a Blu-Ray or DVD?

    I could understand the former, even if I'd prefer it wasn't necessary, as I'd assume it would mean that a licence fee gets paid to relevant companies for every activation. But if the latter, it would mean it turns playback into a sort of always-online DRM, rendering one of the reasons for choosing physical media over streaming as impossible for that player.
    It's the former.

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    It's the former.
    Which does lead in to my "Is it possible to use a console OOTB without internet" query. And if you can't, does the box warn you of that?

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    Re: Microsoft preparing disc-less Xbox One for Spring 2019

    So, does that means that Sony actually pays BluRay licence only once it has been activated?
    So many people do not use their optical drive to watch BR, so this is some money saved for Sony?
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