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    Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    And rumours say AMD's Navi 10 graphics cards will be competitive with the GeForce RTX 2080.
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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Does Hexus not like AdoredTV?

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Does Hexus not like AdoredTV?
    They know what anyone else don't or they are giving their opinion?

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Does Hexus not like AdoredTV?
    Obviously i can't speak for Hexus but personally a YouTuber's sensationalist videos don't carry much credibility in my books.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by GinoLatino View Post
    They know what anyone else don't or they are giving their opinion?
    Adored has been pretty much on the money with leaks in the past and they received some pretty reasonable "leaked" information regarding Ryzen 3xxx and Navi 3xxx

    Everyone else has been happy to discuss and critique it but Hexus are not...

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Obviously i can't speak for Hexus but personally a YouTuber's sensationalist videos don't carry much credibility in my books.
    Youtubers, news sites, what's the difference these days? Jim does seem to have a relatively good track record for leaks. But because it's not verified, he clearly states to take it with salt.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Does Hexus not like AdoredTV?
    I can't talk on behalf of the editorial team here at HEXUS but as someone that's been following tech for a very long time I can give my input. Adored is 100% biased towards AMD and it's very well known he doesn't like Intel or nvidia which unfortunately makes him a very hard source to use.
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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by MLyons View Post
    I can't talk on behalf of the editorial team here at HEXUS but as someone that's been following tech for a very long time I can give my input. Adored is 100% biased towards AMD and it's very well known he doesn't like Intel or nvidia which unfortunately makes him a very hard source to use.
    His bias is quite clear and is potentially a good target for leaks because he will create a starting principle for use.

    But that is why it should be cross examined and critiqued by others. Hardware Unboxed did a good cross examination, most news sites had a reasonable stab at it.

    I just find that Hexus' news output is very...targeted, shall we say.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    How comes Vega 64 has more transistors than a Nvidia RTX 2070 but performs badly? (12.5B versus 10.8B)

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Jim (AdoredTV) uses sound logic to back up his predictions, along with stating to take things with a pinch of salt where necessary. He's also had good form with previous speculation.

    His current video on Ryzen 3000 and Navi does seem overly optimistic, and Hardware Unboxed did a critique of his info here:



    I suspect he's been someone overly optimistic with the regards to core count and/or clock speed on Ryzen 3000, and overly optimistic with pricing for Navi. But if the final products are half as good as he's predicting it will still be something to celebrate.
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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    How comes Vega 64 has more transistors than a Nvidia RTX 2070 but performs badly? (12.5B versus 10.8B)
    I'm no expert but I believe it's to do with the arcitecture and how they're used. AMD, as I understand it, use a more generalised design which is good for other applications, like floating point calculations or mining. While nVidia are more ruthless and hone the design specifically for gaming orientated tasks. You can view it as AMD being bloated or nVidia being penny pinchers. Both are somewhat true.

    nVidia cards have previously suffered when newer API like Vulkan or DX12, or at higher quality settings due to the honed design of their cards, so they hit bandwidth limits (GTX1080 at 4K) / RAM limits (GTX 970 with only 3.5Gb effective) etc.

    I'm talking as a layman, but that's how I've understood it. So you often seen AMD's design implementation gaining ground in higher resolutions or newer API, before nVidia have adapted to optimise their GPU designs.

    I might be talking rubbish, but that's my general understanding.
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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    How comes Vega 64 has more transistors than a Nvidia RTX 2070 but performs badly? (12.5B versus 10.8B)
    Vega was a compute orientated card so worked great in compute workloads but Nvidias cores are more targeted to graphical implementations. That's why Vega performs so much better than Nvidia for DX12 because AMDs architecture supports a much more generalised aspect.

    This does mean that AMD takes a hit in performance by being so general. Great card, just takes a while to get traction in graphical areas.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    If the replacement for Vega 64 comes in at half the price and half the TDP I'll eat my hat.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    If the replacement for Vega 64 comes in at half the price and half the TDP I'll eat my hat.
    I am curious as to what hat we're talking here

    And even if they didn't improve on Navi and just migrated Vega64 to 7nm, at same performance it's half power so you might be eating half a hat

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Hoping they can improve things further, heading towards an upgrade and intel and nvidia have been taking the cake.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    I am curious as to what hat we're talking here
    Nacho hat obvs, sucks when it rains.

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    Re: Korean CPU sales agency holds AMD Ryzen 3000 competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Nacho hat obvs, sucks when it rains.
    I was expecting you to have an Ushanka hat xD

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