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    Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    And this is a major reason why Microsoft is adopting the open-source Chromium code.
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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Someone from a company with a history of intentionally breaking other people's code assumes another company intentionally broke their code?

    Oh come on, this is all drivel. For starters, Edge could have been pulled out of the 6 month OS update cycle without changing the rendering engine. There just isn't any logic to saying the use of Chromium and more regular updates are related. The idea that Microsoft are good web citizens being hard done by is laughable.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    They've been pulling stunts like this for a while, like the one Mozilla flagged previously: https://www.techradar.com/news/mozil...ge-and-firefox

    The irony on MS suffering at the hands of another firms monopoly power (remember ActiveX?) is not lost on me.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    I'm more surprised they didn't play tit-for-tat by not doing something to Windows in order to cripple Chrome.

    They're both as bad as each other IMO.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    ...and all people complaining about Huawei?? Western companies are the worst, no one aint looking there!

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Google the new Microsoft...

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    I'm more surprised they didn't play tit-for-tat by not doing something to Windows in order to cripple Chrome.

    They're both as bad as each other IMO.
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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    ...and all people complaining about Huawei?? Western companies are the worst, no one aint looking there!
    Different scenario - one is about data theft - the other is about crippling a competitors product.
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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    IE6. nuff said.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    ITT: whataboutism. Whataboutism out the yingyang.

    Why are so many people falling over themselves to legitimize these actions ? I feel like I'm on Reddit. This place is normally more level-headed.

    Google, Microsoft, Apple, whoever, they're all massive companies vying for your money, and if screwing each other over will make their competitors look bad, they'll do it. In a heartbeat. But each time it happens we should be taking sad company to task. Then when the next one does it, they'll measure up the blowback and find it not worth it.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Yes, YouTube updates also caused problems for Firefox. Google just doesn't like to play nice.

    Of course, Microsoft is no different, but Microsoft has a lot less power.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    Google, Microsoft, Apple, whoever, they're all massive companies vying for your money, and if screwing each other over will make their competitors look bad, they'll do it. In a heartbeat. But each time it happens we should be taking sad company to task. Then when the next one does it, they'll measure up the blowback and find it not worth it.
    Oh without a doubt trying to cripple someone else's product is despicable. I would hope enough people in the industry remember the flak from Microsoft logic bombing Windows so that it died when customers tried to run it on DR-DOS to know that whilst the attack successfully destroyed the DR-DOS market share it drove mistrust in Microsoft for decades and I can't imagine anyone wants to be hated as much as they were.

    Personally, if I was asked to implement something like that I would say no. Are there really enough programmers out there who would actually do this stuff? There are certainly plenty of programmers that make mistakes, I can happily believe what is being put forward as mischief is really just unfortunate dumb coding. I mean, I don't test against Edge, I am more likely to test against IE6 tbh. So I don't expect Google to be Edge experts.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by ET3D View Post
    Yes, YouTube updates also caused problems for Firefox. Google just doesn't like to play nice.

    Of course, Microsoft is no different, but Microsoft has a lot less power.
    It's amusing that even with that, Firefox and Edge both, in my experience, handle youtube (and other video sites) far better than Chrome/Opera/Vivaldi. It's a shame MS are doing this IMO, Edge works far better at everything than any Chromium based browser on my tablet. I wish Firefox had swipe gestures for touch, then I could switch to that if need be.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Personally, if I was asked to implement something like that I would say no. Are there really enough programmers out there who would actually do this stuff? There are certainly plenty of programmers that make mistakes, I can happily believe what is being put forward as mischief is really just unfortunate dumb coding. I mean, I don't test against Edge, I am more likely to test against IE6 tbh. So I don't expect Google to be Edge experts.
    Read the bit about them contacting google about it...

    In all honesty I can fully see Google doing this.

    Although I use android and even google search, I can see how google are actually a bad thing for the internet as a whole considering how much power they hold over it all. They basically control your position in search results, they 'own' the browser with largest marketshare (whether it's the best option or not) and often as not their own sites fail to work properly on other browsers if at all either by using things like 'chrome only' code, just look at google earth for example, it doesn't work on firefox full stop, maps used to have issues with firefox too.

    Considering how Google wanted the 'standardised' internet when ie6 was around, it's kind of ironic how they're basically now doing the same thing with Chrome as MS did with internet explorer.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Read the bit about them contacting google about it...
    You mean where when asked they didn't remove the empty div? My guess would be they were using it, that's the thing with modern web pages they are more a structure for scripts to manipulate so the fact it starts off empty doesn't mean it won't have something (knowing Google probably an advert) in it later.

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    Re: Google changes sites to break rival browsers: ex-Edge intern

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    Why are so many people falling over themselves to legitimize these actions ? I feel like I'm on Reddit. This place is normally more level-headed.
    I don't think people are legitimizing these actions, they've just begrudgingly accepted that's how thing are these days, tech enthusiasts are sadly in the minority nowadays so what we think has very little impact in the wider world....

    ....Man what a way to start the day, I've really put a downer on myself.

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