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Nvidia says latest Turing GeForce card will be available globally from Tuesday 15th January.
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Nvidia says latest Turing GeForce card will be available globally from Tuesday 15th January.
I want the reviews to see if they really are killing the value proposition of the 2070 with the 2060 :)
"for the masses"
You keep using that phrase .. I do not think it means what you think it means.</inigo>
I make the SRP £329 once you account for VAT. I mean, it's a lot of graphics card for £329, but I'm not sure that qualifies as "for the masses"....
Lets hope AMD announces a Navi that can compete with at least the 2060 otherwise Nvidia will price gouge the PC gaming market to stagnation.
"Furthermore, the Turing and Tensor cores mean it can "run Battlefield V with ray tracing at 60 frames per second."
Does that mean it's as fast as the 2080ti?
I use this argument to define "for the masses", are you ready?Quote:
Originally Posted by scaryjim
When the GPU price passes the CPU price of the person that would chose that card considering the CPU/System he has, it is NOT for the masses.
Unless I'm understanding this wrong, you're saying that a $1000 GPU is "for the masses" if anyone who'd buy the card would pair it with a CPU costing more than $1000?!Quote:
Originally Posted by GinoLatino
I must be understanding your argument wrong, surely...?
Surely a CPU costing $1000 or more isn't for the masses...I think that's the point.
Masses, in this case, I would assume to be casual gamers. As most PC users wouldn't even be looking at graphics cards I suspect! I think for casual gamers, upto £150 is the mass market as a rough rule of thumb, no?
The most exciting thing about this announcement is that we are finally going to see DLSS in a game..potentially even this month. The numbers for the 2060 are running at 1080p too, which also confirms that DLSS is beneficial at resolutions below 4k, which is good news for people like me who play at 1440p.
Last night I was playing BFV and getting around 60FPS @ 1440p, ulta preset with DXR on medium - that was on Rotterdam (the FPS is better on the simpler maps, but Rotterdam is a bit of an intensive map). This is with a 2080. Making a bunch of assumptions it looks like DLSS will offer a 20-30% boost to FPS, meaning i may be able to bump up the DXR settings to high or ultra and maintain that 60FPS average which would be awesome. G-Sync deals with the odd drops here and there so it doesn't matter if it dips a little.
Fingers crossed Tomb Raider is the next title to receive this treatment - Raytracing really is a huge step forward in graphics I am looking forward to seeing it in more games.
Price wise the 2060 is still expensive, and there is no doubt it's still part of the "premium" range of graphics cards..but at ~50% of the price of the 2080 it could be a great option for those that want to experience the huge benefits that Raytracing/DXR can offer, if they are happy to stick to 1080p gaming.
I'd say "for the masses" should be the point where it's in budget for more than half of the market for that class of item. I'd seriously question whether more than half the people who'd buy a dGPU would spend up to £329 on one.Quote:
Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk
Where prices are currently I'd accept up to ~ £200. Maybe even a stretch to £250. That's where the RX 480 and 580 launched, and they were very much targeted at the mass market. if nvidia can persuade enough people to pay £329 then perhaps they're capable of redefining the price point that makes it "the masses". As it stands though, I'm very skeptical...
That Radeon 580 I bought, a couple of months ago, for £180 is looking more and more like a good choice.
If I sell an overpriced coffee for £50, then sell another one for £15... by NVidia logic, would that also be for the masses? Or will everyone else stick their fingers up and go to Costa?
I hope it's the latter.
`I hope it's the latte.`? (i`m sorry, i couldn`t resist that)Quote:
Originally Posted by simonpreston