The Division 2 PC features and system requirements shared

[wazzickle]

To 'own' a game would mean owning the entirety of the game itself. To own a game in common parlance means the same thing as owning a film or dvd box set. The contract is (or was) that you can play that game or watch that film or tv show anywhere where you have the hardware with which to do so, much like owning a copy of a book. Just because they've rebranded the transaction as 'licensing' doesn't legitimize their decision to pull the rug out from under us. If you marketed a phone as only being able to buy temporarily a license to use someone else's hardware, no-one would do it.

[Glyce]

The number of people that don't understand having all games on Steam kills the market is huge.

Steam takes a huge share of developers money. Every time you buy on Steam you're preventing a game from being properly developed... 30% is a HUGE cut, thats the full normal profit margin of a product. What does the developer get? Peanuts. And then you wonder why games these days are so basic and full of microtransactions....

But hey, go for it, stick to crying you want all games on steam, I for one avoid steam like the plague.

[Spud1]

The number of people that don't understand having all games on Steam kills the market is huge.

Steam takes a huge share of developers money. Every time you buy on Steam you're preventing a game from being properly developed... 30% is a HUGE cut, thats the full normal profit margin of a product. What does the developer get? Peanuts. And then you wonder why games these days are so basic and full of microtransactions....

But hey, go for it, stick to crying you want all games on steam, I for one avoid steam like the plague.

That's fine - and to a large degree I actually agree with you. The problem I have is that as consumers we don't have a choice where to buy our games from. I am all for Epic or whoever else launching their own store, but as a consumer I want a choice of where to buy it from (or to decide not to buy it from this in case) - not from a single monopoly. It doesn't matter if that monopoly is owned by Epic, Steam, EA etc...if a game is only available from a single store, then that is bad for the consumer.

The best situation for the consumer is that we can buy our games from a number of different platforms and make our own choice. That may also bring with it some competition between the stores to have the best price/benefits etc.....having a game on a single store doesn't encourage *any* of that. All it does it drive consumers to CDKey resellers and frustrate them at being required to install multiple stores and platforms to play the games they want.

[Ozaron]

I thought I would give The Division 1 a try as it looked interesting. Downloaded the demo and was informed that I needed Uplay. That was when the fun started.
I have spent two days trying to get a Uplay account.
When I try and set up the account all I get is a "please wait" screen which after an hour I gave up on.
When I try and log in with Uplay on my pc I get told that I should log in online first.
When I try to log in online it tells me that my username/password is incorrect.
So I try and create an account again only to be told that my chosen username is now in use but I cannot log in (see line above).
So for me personally Uplay is a non-starter. They seem not to want my business.
I guess The Division is not for me.
Their loss as I like the look of the game.

This exact situation happened to me something like 4 years ago when I returned to Uplay after playing Heroes of Might and Magic 6. That was the only game on my account, luckily, but I couldn't get into my original account anymore, couldn't reset it, and couldn't get the name freed up. I now technically own two Uplay accounts, and my copy of HoMM6 is now (even more) worthless as I cannot assign it to my second Uplay. It's less hatefully designed now than it was then, so the fact you're still having issues like this says a lot.

For the record, I used a hotmail email for my original Uplay, which Microsoft kindly locked me, the account owner, out of; after they had been breached or similar. No matter how many questions I answered they refused to let me into my own email.

[shaithis]

That's fine - and to a large degree I actually agree with you. The problem I have is that as consumers we don't have a choice where to buy our games from. I am all for Epic or whoever else launching their own store, but as a consumer I want a choice of where to buy it from (or to decide not to buy it from this in case) - not from a single monopoly. It doesn't matter if that monopoly is owned by Epic, Steam, EA etc...if a game is only available from a single store, then that is bad for the consumer.

The best situation for the consumer is that we can buy our games from a number of different platforms and make our own choice. That may also bring with it some competition between the stores to have the best price/benefits etc.....having a game on a single store doesn't encourage *any* of that. All it does it drive consumers to CDKey resellers and frustrate them at being required to install multiple stores and platforms to play the games they want.

Its the same with TV streaming at the moment, everyone wants a slice of the pie. The difference here is that the fracturing of the market doesn't cost you lots more and in many cases can actually make the price lower.

Well, unless Steam started an "All you can eat" subscription service.....I have started looking at Microsofts and am almost sold.

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