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    MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    But its tests have not been verified with Nvidia at the time of writing.
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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Nice, if we can get other manufacturers to test out whether it's compatible or not, we can save a lot of money just by choosing freesync only with an Nvidia gpu. Also still don't know why Nvidia can't directly say freesync, when will they ever drop the beef.
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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by abychristy View Post
    Also still don't know why Nvidia can't directly say freesync
    Freesync is AMD's name for it, not the industry standard which is Adaptive Sync.

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    That'll mean prices on these particular monitors going up by £50 at OcUK then.


    ...Those boys never miss a chance to price gouge.

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by abychristy View Post
    Nice, if we can get other manufacturers to test out whether it's compatible or not, we can save a lot of money just by choosing freesync only with an Nvidia gpu. Also still don't know why Nvidia can't directly say freesync, when will they ever drop the beef.
    Tbh reviewers like hardware unboxed have called bs on nvidia claims when it comes to freesync monitors. My hp omen 32 wasn't on the list but worked perfectly.
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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by abychristy View Post
    Nice, if we can get other manufacturers to test out whether it's compatible or not, we can save a lot of money just by choosing freesync only with an Nvidia gpu. Also still don't know why Nvidia can't directly say freesync, when will they ever drop the beef.
    To be fair, Freesync is an AMD marketing term so they can't really use it.

    From a practical point of view, they have to tread a line. If they declare Gsync dead then risk alienating their existing GSync customers by making them feel they got themselves locked into Nvidia for nothing. If they stayed as they were then Intel's next gen graphics adopting Freesync compatible adaptive sync would leave Nvidia out on a limb with people buying adaptive monitors for their Intel GPUs and when they decide to get a discrete GPU the obvious choice would be AMD or they have to buy another monitor.

    So Nvidia have done the only thing they can. They obviously knew it was coming as they built it into the 1080 which was released a long time ago now. That's how long they have been sitting on this feature holding it back from users, which is partly why I am surprised they released it on the 1080 cards. It seems more their way to force people to upgrade to a 20x0 card if they want something new in the drivers, not to give hints that they treat us like a herd to be farmed.

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    I read somewhere that most adaptive sync monitors will run fine with Gsync and are only failing Nvidia's test because they don't switch to Gsync automaticly and it has to be enabled manually which Nvidia don't like.
    Can't remember where i read it but it makes sense.

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by Wh00pS View Post
    I read somewhere that most adaptive sync monitors will run fine with Gsync and are only failing Nvidia's test because they don't switch to Gsync automaticly and it has to be enabled manually which Nvidia don't like.
    Can't remember where i read it but it makes sense.
    You got that backwards. Nvidia decide that a monitor fails their tests, so they don't tell the driver to automatically switch Gsync on.

    But as long as you can override it, that's fine. Occasional & budget users will be using HDMI monitors and Nvidia don't support adaptive sync over that anyway. I suspect users who bought Displayport monitors will generally know what they bought and how to switch the feature on so I doubt many users will really miss out.

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    How does a user know wether their monitor is compatible? i mean, my 28" 4k, no name monitor has a freesync setting i can turn off or on, but how do i know if it's working or not, is there a test i can do?

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by outwar6010 View Post
    Tbh reviewers like hardware unboxed have called bs on nvidia claims when it comes to freesync monitors. My hp omen 32 wasn't on the list but worked perfectly.
    I'm sure it did work... but is it actually certified as 'G-Sync Compatible'?

    There are four levels of 'will work with G-Sync':
    https://www.techspot.com/article/177...vidia-geforce/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    To be fair, Freesync is an AMD marketing term so they can't really use it.
    It's fully trademarked and everything, I even Goggled it!!
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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I'm sure it did work... but is it actually certified as 'G-Sync Compatible'?

    There are four levels of 'will work with G-Sync':
    https://www.techspot.com/article/177...vidia-geforce/

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    It's fully trademarked and everything, I even Goggled it!!
    There are three levels and the first one is to work without flashing or artifacts. If a monitor has flashing or artifacts when using freesync its defective. I mean even when nvidia do something good they have to be dirty at the same time. This is just a cheap tactic to try to convince people to pay the g sync tax.
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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by outwar6010 View Post
    There are three levels and the first one is to work without flashing or artifacts. If a monitor has flashing or artifacts when using freesync its defective. I mean even when nvidia do something good they have to be dirty at the same time. This is just a cheap tactic to try to convince people to pay the g sync tax.
    It's not really a G-Sync Tax anymore though, as other articles have said. It's just a lure to buy their cards

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by outwar6010 View Post
    There are three levels
    1/. G-Sync Ultimate with HDR
    2/. Standard G-Sync
    3/. G-Sync compatible
    4/. VRR monitors yet to be validated as G-Sync compatible...

    Admittedly 4 is a maybe, but those that do work fine and just don't have certification are still counted.

    Quote Originally Posted by outwar6010 View Post
    This is just a cheap tactic to try to convince people to pay the g sync tax.
    How so?
    It means I don't have to buy a massively expensive G-Sync monitor, I can just get a cheaper one that is Certified. It doesn't even force me to buy one of their cards, as I can still use it on my AMD one...
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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by outwar6010 View Post
    Tbh reviewers like hardware unboxed have called bs on nvidia claims when it comes to freesync monitors. My hp omen 32 wasn't on the list but worked perfectly.
    I've already said this once, in another thread. Just because the Freesync works on your NVIDIA card, doesn't mean that there aren't other underlying issues that you're either ignorant of, or just haven't noticed.
    There testing procedure was much more in-depth than testing if Freesync works or not.

    It seems like you've developed a bit of a hatred for NVIDIA and this is a bit of a vent because you didn't have a G-SYNC monitor for whatever reason. They've added functionality to all monitors but are only giving some of them actual certification, the ones that passed their tests.
    Your monitor obviously failed at some point and therefore didn't pass the test.

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    Your monitor obviously failed at some point and therefore didn't pass the test.
    Perhaps it failed at the "money changing hands" test which used to be part of the Gsync test suite

    Seriously though, I honestly I don't get the fuss here. Don't people buy monitors based on reviews & price, not labels?

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    Re: MSI boasts many of its FreeSync monitors are G-Sync Compatible

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Don't people buy monitors based on reviews & price, not labels?
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