AMD Radeon VII Final Fantasy XV benchmarks appear

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And earlier some purported Radeon VII 3DMark results were shared online.

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Whilst I am sure this card performs light years better within vulkan and other non bias developed games, if the performance is going to be that much worse in Nvidia gameworks titles to the point it is being beaten by a 1070Ti, then that doesn't bode well for this card whether AMD's fault or not. Time will tell all but so far this is not looking like a good launch for AMD :(

That FFXV leak will just add nails to the Vega lineups coffin.

As EvilCycle says, whether it is AMDs fault or not that it is being leaked within a horrendously biased benchmark, it will cause negative mindspace around the card!

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Originally Posted by Tabbykatze

As EvilCycle says, whether it is AMDs fault or not that it is being leaked within a horrendously biased benchmark, it will cause negative mindspace around the card!

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Well, let's face it, in general AMD is bogged down entirely by negative mindspace, as you put it. Enthusiasts find AMD a challenge to justify outside of raw price/perf, more work to implement and support, and the less interested mass out there understand NVidia to be "the graphics card company", if OEMs aren't already choosing for them.

I work in an office of only a few tech savvy people and every one of them is brutally Intel/NVidia biased. Worse still, they have solid anecdotal experience/reasoning for it.

This FFXV bench won't do AMD any favours but it's not like this is a departure from the norm, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Tabbykatze

leaked within a horrendously biased benchmark, it will cause negative mindspace

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Not to everyone, I tend to ignore benchmarks that lean heavily in favour of one brand of card over another (as well as the games). Now if this was leaked in a balanced benchmark that doesn't favour one brand of hardware over another I'd be more concerned, but it's important to also factor in the drivers used as well.

Set expectations low and then it looks better when it comes out?

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Originally Posted by Iota

Not to everyone, I tend to ignore benchmarks that lean heavily in favour of one brand of card over another (as well as the games). Now if this was leaked in a balanced benchmark that doesn't favour one brand of hardware over another I'd be more concerned, but it's important to also factor in the drivers used as well.

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If only more people thought like you, we'd all likely benefit from cheaper GPUs.

I have no idea about FF - but this performance gap seems beyond bias?

As ever, it's probably irresponsible for news sites to be bringing these leaks to attention as news. They're is too much speculation.

With Final Fantasy being the bench leaked, it makes it seem like the leaker had an agenda.
The Timespy stuff seems more realistic, and loosely lines up with what AMD has been saying relative to the Vega 64 (but it still doesn't look great vs the 2080).
You're better off just taking Vega 64 bench scores and multiplying by 1.25 at this point, imo.

Or, you know, just wait a week..

This would be a useful leak if there was another AMD card to make a comparison to. But there isn't. As above, there's an agenda here. Plus immature drivers which are going to have Nvidia optimised games at the lower end of their priorities list.

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Originally Posted by Tabbykatze

leaked within a horrendously biased benchmark, it will cause negative mind space

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Not to everyone, I tend to ignore benchmarks that lean heavily in favor of one brand of card over another (as well as the games). Now if this was leaked in a balanced benchmark that doesn't favor one brand of hardware over another I'd be more concerned, but it's important to also factor in the drivers used as well.

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Agreed, I simply cannot support such evil business practices, Luckily there is lots of great games out there competing for my money and as a working person not enough time to play them all.
Nvidia and their lackey developers can keep their GPU's and rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish games.

The Radeon VII was never meant to be released. It's an Instinct M150 with some bits disabled, AMD weren't even thinking about having anything in the top level space because selling an M150 at consumer prices would be insane and lose them a lot of money. It was only when nvidia tried to gouge the f**k out of everyone with their RTX pricing that AMD realised they could sell some of these failed M150s at a similar price.

This card is a PR stunt to say "look, we're starting to compete at the top end again", nothing more. I've read there'll be less than 5000 of these cards made but take that with a grain of salt.

am shock if them benchmarks are correct ?