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at amd there wasn't much as far as engineering left for him to do. this is a brand new project, and a lot of engineering and planning is needed. This move will work out great for everyone. Three big companies instead of just 2 will force competition to create newer architectures. I am looking forward to seeing what Intel and Koduri come up with.
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Originally Posted by colonelblimp
I would be surprised if Intel (even with Koduri) could ever be a third equivalent pole in GPU industry. I think it's too late for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ETR316
Vega isn't that bad a design. A big part of the problem is that the GlobalFoundries process it's manufactured on isn't competitive on power consumption with the TSMC process that NVidia is using. We can see how the gap was narrowed (though not fully closed) by Radeon VII. The other part of the problem is that AMD to some extent optimized the wrong things; Vega is a really great OpenCL card but there is very little demand for those compared to the market for cards for graphics.
The fact that Ryzen is competitive with Intel despite being saddled with GloFo manufacturing shows just how good a design it is. Preliminary results of the new Ryzen on TSMC 7nm suggests that it's going to kill Intel on performance and power, at least on the desktop; we don't yet know how will it will do at 6W or 15W TDP for laptops. Of course, Intel won't be standing still and should finally get its 10nm process into volume production by the end of the year.
Current Intel CPUs are a finesse and evolution of the Pentium Pro, a two decades old architecture. Since then Intel have come up with Itanium, the Pentium 4 and Larrabee which were all awful. I suppose you could argue that the later Atom CPUs were new and pretty good, which balances that the original Atom was unusable (I have an Atom D520 board in the garage I find less responsive than a Raspberry Pi).Quote:
Originally Posted by ETR316
Intel's record on innovation isn't good, so I'm not holding my breath.
Very well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixCurrent Intel CPUs are a finesse and evolution of the Pentium Pro, a two decades old architecture. Since then Intel have come up with Itanium, the Pentium 4 and Larrabee which were all awful. I suppose you could argue that the later Atom CPUs were new and pretty good, which balances that the original Atom was unusable (I have an Atom D520 board in the garage I find less responsive than a Raspberry Pi).Quote:
Originally Posted by ETR316
Intel's record on innovation isn't good, so I'm not holding my breath.
the real questions from me are:
A) Can Intel really launch a credible graphics solution in 2020? Because that seems jolly soon from a standing start.
B) Why are they bothering? Nvidia global sales aren't even a scratch on the surface compared to Intel's global sales. SO why bother?