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    Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Meanwhile Intel Graphics is teasing a revamped control panel, due shortly.
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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Created an unsustainable carcass of a GPU and walked away. Hopefully the next carcass he creates will be better.

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Created an unsustainable carcass of a GPU and walked away. Hopefully the next carcass he creates will be better.
    Raja kinda reminds of chris grayling tbh. I hope he doesn't hurt intel too much.
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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    How much work do big names like him and Jim actually put in compared to the dozens of engineers working under them at this stage in their careers? Like, did Jim actually place a single transistor for Ryzen or is he just a guiding figurehead for the team?

    Regardless, I'm slightly surprised Intel still wanted Raja after the abysmal state he left Radeon in... it's a bit like Manchester United deciding to hire the DCFC manager the year they got relegated.

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke7 View Post
    How much work do big names like him and Jim actually put in compared to the dozens of engineers working under them at this stage in their careers? Like, did Jim actually place a single transistor for Ryzen or is he just a guiding figurehead for the team?
    That is what I'm wondering too...

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Is he AMD's cover up mission?
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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke7 View Post
    How much work do big names like him and Jim actually put in compared to the dozens of engineers working under them at this stage in their careers? Like, did Jim actually place a single transistor for Ryzen or is he just a guiding figurehead for the team?

    Personally, I think people like him are just head managers at this point of their careers. I really don't see them doing any engineers/technicians work with the paycheck they get. They might certainly brainstorm ideas and tell people to do it.

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    I suspect it is more a case that he has a few ideas, shares them with his team, then listens to ideas from said team, and hopefully has the experience to know what approaches will work and be worth pursuing. He needs to look at what Intel are trying to achieve, and predict what the GPU market will need for the coming years and decide on the approaches required to deliver on that. I'd imagine the engineers will actually do the implementation of those broader strokes.

    The challenge he faces will be delivering those results without infringing patents held by AMD and Nvidia (plus various others). I'd imagine that's a huge minefield, and effectively prevents new players entering the market. Intel, of course, have their own existing architectures and patents, so this shouldn't be unsurmountable, but the difficulty will be shaping those to match the needs of a high end part with competative efficiency.

    That all being said, I have absolutely no idea how you'd manage a division of 4,500 people on something like that. I can only assume with the broadest of strokes, and only involving yourself in things that interest you (dangerous!). That amount of people would require so many levels of sub-team-management that it could very easily turn into a beaurocratic nightmare
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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    I'm pretty sure that all the engineering resources were moved to Ryzen/Navi and he had to cobble Vega together on a shoe string.
    Would make much more sense if AMD and nV merged to compete with Intel, but we all know that will never happen.

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    You can't deny his expertise in motivating those 4500 engineers. He's only been in charge a year and they already have upgraded their graphics control panel....

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    "resignation letter"? wasn't he essentially sacked?

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Rajas troubles with burning intel's R&D cash: (1) not infringing patents (2) Nvidia & AMD already working at 7nm GPUs while intel is still at 14nm (3) price per performance, consumers are EXTREMELY stingy.

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmaheid View Post
    You can't deny his expertise in motivating those 4500 engineers. He's only been in charge a year and they already have upgraded their graphics control panel....
    I chuckled hard at that

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke7 View Post
    How much work do big names like him and Jim actually put in compared to the dozens of engineers working under them at this stage in their careers? Like, did Jim actually place a single transistor for Ryzen or is he just a guiding figurehead for the team?
    Oh it can make a massive difference, I can say that without a moments hesitation having worked in a range of companies under varying conditions.

    What I don't know is if Raja is actually a good or bad engineering leader. He comes across a bit snake oil salesman, promising the earth.


    Quote Originally Posted by pvtbanner View Post
    I'm pretty sure that all the engineering resources were moved to Ryzen/Navi and he had to cobble Vega together on a shoe string.
    Would make much more sense if AMD and nV merged to compete with Intel, but we all know that will never happen.
    A new architecture with new memory interface and a new packaging requirements? OK some of that was done with Fury, but that doesn't sound like a low budget development to me.

    As for moving resources, you can move budgets around easily enough but you can't move actual engineers between products without a lot of disruption and usually harm to the project you move them to. Engineers used as a fungible resource is the biggest red flag I look for in a job interview, I'm done trying to help fix such places.
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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    I completely don't understand in what way he 'll refrain from subconsciously using innovative ideas from his previous job to his new one.

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    Re: Raja Koduri reveals reasons behind his AMD to Intel move

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Amstrad View Post
    I completely don't understand in what way he 'll refrain from subconsciously using innovative ideas from his previous job to his new one.
    Well, he probably won't refrain, at least for the ideas that AMD failed to get legal ownership of. I'd be surprised if everything he had to offer was just dumped on Vega, especially if they had no budget or manpower to implement it all. Besides, seeing what tech and patents Intel has already should be at least a little bit inspiring / creativity inducing, no?

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