Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

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Powered by octa-core Zen2 CPU, Navi GPU + real-time raytracing, 3D audio, and SSD storage.

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There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.

I think I will wait a couple of years for the X/Pro versions to come out again. Let them iron out the kinks

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Originally Posted by Tunnah

There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.

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This has been said SO many times throughout history.

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Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob

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That's what worries me. It seems to be a trend (not must in gaming).

Still ....

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Other important aspects of the Sony PlayStation 5 are that it will support backwards compatibility with PS4 games and titles will still be sold on physical media.

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.... that's more promising.

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Originally Posted by Luke7

This has been said SO many times throughout history.

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And usually been correct.

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Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob

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If you're happy with a non Pro/X, you can get both the new consoles dirt cheap on the used market. Paid less than £100 each. The prices certainly start cheap but they're sold in such masses that they become worthless pretty quick.

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Originally Posted by Tunnah

There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.

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This is not true. The true statement is that their is MUCH MORE incentive for companies to do incremental development/product releases rather than big leaps. Its all about maximising revenue and bad capitalism.

Pretty much what I expected from the next evolution, since they became x86/Radeon machines. PS4 emulation wouldn't be hard to do at all. I would like to see at least PS1/PS2 in there as well. PS3 could be bit more complex but possible.
The SSD sounds interesting but I can't help but think that'll be turned in to simply an SSD for cost saving, or even an SSHD solution. Tbf, I'd be happy with an SSHD as a speed/storage/price compromise, in a games console, as I feel even 2TB isn't going to be enough. But one with at least 64GB of flash space.

So in other words, It's now basically a pc!

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Originally Posted by Tunnah

There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.

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They said that when SSDs launched, an order of magnitude faster than previous storage.

They said it when mainstream broadband was available, giving connection speeds orders of magnitude quicker and thus enabling a whole new generation of onlina applications.

They said it when 3D graphic accelerators were launched able to render 3d environments on the fly at speeds and resolutions previously impossible on a home pc.

Even if this console gen isn't it, you never know when the next big leap forward will come.

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Originally Posted by Shane74

So in other words, It's now basically a pc!

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As are the current gen, excepting the Switch.

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Originally Posted by Troopa

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This is not true. The true statement is that their is MUCH MORE incentive for companies to do incremental development/product releases rather than big leaps. Its all about maximising revenue and bad capitalism.

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I dunno if incremental means it goes a bit like the PC where you can attempt to play games until your machine starts chocking on medium settings, surely that's a good thing and prolongs the life of consoles a little? If there no leaps to be made atm there are no leaps.

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Originally Posted by LondonTom

I dunno if incremental means it goes a bit like the PC where you can attempt to play games until your machine starts chocking on medium settings, surely that's a good thing and prolongs the life of consoles a little? If there no leaps to be made atm there are no leaps.

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I don't think that's what he was getting af.

Sometimes, companies have a significant step forward up their sleeves, but to release it would only serve to obsolete their own products. So they might release a modest upgrade, sometimes little more that a few tweaks and a facelift, designed to tempt those that like to have the latest models into being separated from their cash.

But when sales start to flag too much ..... out comes whatever they had been up their sleeves.

In other words, almost rationing the release of new tech to maximise revenue.

In the early days of almost any tech, each step in product evolution can be relatively big, but as the tech matures, so each step gets smaller and smaller. Think of the early years of PCs, and what each generation gave in sheep power and what those changes allowed us to do with those machines ... like moving from purely text-based letters, to rudimentary graphics, to DTP, to photographic quality, photo and video edition, dictation software via voice recognition, and so on.

What we can do now, on a smartphone, would have seemed ike something out of a sci-fi film even for a major computr installation, in those days.

But it gets harder and harder (and exponentially more expensive) to keep pushing the boundaries and as it does, it's less and less in company's interests to just release new stuff until there's a compelling reason, like either a competitor's products, or to try to dominate the market and raise the barriers to competition sufficiently high go deter others from trying.

That's pretty much why we have two main CPU firms, two main GPU firms, and four or five hard drive makers rather thsn 20 or 30.

So what is variable rate shader and how will it help us?

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Originally Posted by lumireleon

So what is variable rate shader and how will it help us?

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Wrong thread? Regardless, it's a way of rending parts of the screen at a lower resolution, ideally where you won't notice it so much, giving an increase of frame rate.