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    Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    I think I will wait a couple of years for the X/Pro versions to come out again. Let them iron out the kinks

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    ... behind a bigger pay wall

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.
    This has been said SO many times throughout history.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob View Post
    ... behind a bigger pay wall
    That's what worries me. It seems to be a trend (not must in gaming).

    Still ....

    Other important aspects of the Sony PlayStation 5 are that it will support backwards compatibility with PS4 games and titles will still be sold on physical media.
    .... that's more promising.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke7 View Post
    This has been said SO many times throughout history.
    And usually been correct.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by big_hairy_rob View Post
    ... behind a bigger pay wall
    If you're happy with a non Pro/X, you can get both the new consoles dirt cheap on the used market. Paid less than £100 each. The prices certainly start cheap but they're sold in such masses that they become worthless pretty quick.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.
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    This is not true. The true statement is that their is MUCH MORE incentive for companies to do incremental development/product releases rather than big leaps. Its all about maximising revenue and bad capitalism.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Pretty much what I expected from the next evolution, since they became x86/Radeon machines. PS4 emulation wouldn't be hard to do at all. I would like to see at least PS1/PS2 in there as well. PS3 could be bit more complex but possible.
    The SSD sounds interesting but I can't help but think that'll be turned in to simply an SSD for cost saving, or even an SSHD solution. Tbf, I'd be happy with an SSHD as a speed/storage/price compromise, in a games console, as I feel even 2TB isn't going to be enough. But one with at least 64GB of flash space.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    So in other words, It's now basically a pc!

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    There are no more giant leaps. We've reached a point where technology has become so advanced, and so refined, that the best we can do is just generational improvements. And I am 100% OK with that.
    They said that when SSDs launched, an order of magnitude faster than previous storage.

    They said it when mainstream broadband was available, giving connection speeds orders of magnitude quicker and thus enabling a whole new generation of onlina applications.

    They said it when 3D graphic accelerators were launched able to render 3d environments on the fly at speeds and resolutions previously impossible on a home pc.

    Even if this console gen isn't it, you never know when the next big leap forward will come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shane74 View Post
    So in other words, It's now basically a pc!
    As are the current gen, excepting the Switch.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Troopa View Post
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    This is not true. The true statement is that their is MUCH MORE incentive for companies to do incremental development/product releases rather than big leaps. Its all about maximising revenue and bad capitalism.
    I dunno if incremental means it goes a bit like the PC where you can attempt to play games until your machine starts chocking on medium settings, surely that's a good thing and prolongs the life of consoles a little? If there no leaps to be made atm there are no leaps.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by LondonTom View Post
    I dunno if incremental means it goes a bit like the PC where you can attempt to play games until your machine starts chocking on medium settings, surely that's a good thing and prolongs the life of consoles a little? If there no leaps to be made atm there are no leaps.
    I don't think that's what he was getting af.

    Sometimes, companies have a significant step forward up their sleeves, but to release it would only serve to obsolete their own products. So they might release a modest upgrade, sometimes little more that a few tweaks and a facelift, designed to tempt those that like to have the latest models into being separated from their cash.

    But when sales start to flag too much ..... out comes whatever they had been up their sleeves.

    In other words, almost rationing the release of new tech to maximise revenue.

    In the early days of almost any tech, each step in product evolution can be relatively big, but as the tech matures, so each step gets smaller and smaller. Think of the early years of PCs, and what each generation gave in sheep power and what those changes allowed us to do with those machines ... like moving from purely text-based letters, to rudimentary graphics, to DTP, to photographic quality, photo and video edition, dictation software via voice recognition, and so on.

    What we can do now, on a smartphone, would have seemed ike something out of a sci-fi film even for a major computr installation, in those days.

    But it gets harder and harder (and exponentially more expensive) to keep pushing the boundaries and as it does, it's less and less in company's interests to just release new stuff until there's a compelling reason, like either a competitor's products, or to try to dominate the market and raise the barriers to competition sufficiently high go deter others from trying.

    That's pretty much why we have two main CPU firms, two main GPU firms, and four or five hard drive makers rather thsn 20 or 30.

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    So what is variable rate shader and how will it help us?

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    Re: Sony PlayStation 5 will deliver "fundamental changes" in gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    So what is variable rate shader and how will it help us?
    Wrong thread? Regardless, it's a way of rending parts of the screen at a lower resolution, ideally where you won't notice it so much, giving an increase of frame rate.

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