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    Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    New breed of laptops will feature tech such as 5G, AI, 20hr batteries, and instant resume.
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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    Any requirements to improve cooling and avoid throttling? No didn't see those mentioned. We'll just keep ignoring the elephant in the room then. And no-one mention 10nm either...

    I would have thought the whole "waiting for your PC" thing was mainly due to throttling lag. It is on mine!

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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    Gaming machines really should do something about the great, big, silly hair dryer noise. Absolute madness. "Oh zurrrkkk my gamin' rig is 7mm thin!"

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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    So, taking cues from the Ultrabook thing...

    They are creating a new notebook class and if you want in then you have to join the Intel club. You can try and create one on your own but you're going to fail as Intel will have tapped the best vendors. Each vendor on their own is powerless and beholden to Intel who will demand only their CPUs can go into the product, obviously and also probably ensure prices and margins are nice and low. Thus Intel will use their market punch to lock everyone who wants to make a successful ultraportable into building them with only Intel CPUs, effectively locking AMD out of the competition as all the suppliers have agreed to work with Intel.

    That feels like a messy way of describing what's in my head - is it about right?

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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    That feels like a messy way of describing what's in my head - is it about right?
    You missed out the bit where if you make products containing AMD chips then they cut your supply of Intel chips to make sure any increase in market share you could get from them you lose from not being able to sell Intel devices to those that want them whilst also removing any marketing budget kickbacks.

    Edit: The feature list makes it sound like any modern phone. All a bit sad really.
    Last edited by DanceswithUnix; 09-05-2019 at 08:23 PM.

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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    You missed out the bit where if you make products containing AMD chips then they cut your supply of Intel chips to make sure any increase in market share you could get from them you lose from not being able to sell Intel devices to those that want them whilst also removing any marketing budget kickbacks.

    Edit: The feature list makes it sound like any modern phone. All a bit sad really.
    Sounds all Nvidia GPP to me.

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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by atemporal View Post
    Any requirements to improve cooling and avoid throttling? No didn't see those mentioned. We'll just keep ignoring the elephant in the room then. And no-one mention 10nm either...

    I would have thought the whole "waiting for your PC" thing was mainly due to throttling lag. It is on mine!
    yours is old, will be compared to this new system design

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    Re: Intel Project Athena labs redesigns Ultrabooks for 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    You missed out the bit where if you make products containing AMD chips then they cut your supply of Intel chips to make sure any increase in market share you could get from them you lose from not being able to sell Intel devices to those that want them whilst also removing any marketing budget kickbacks.

    Edit: The feature list makes it sound like any modern phone. All a bit sad really.
    So my cynical view on this is probably about right then?

    I don't think it's a bad thing that workhorse, basic but ultraportable laptops are integrating mobile phone style features. Having mobile internet as an option is very useful and really, for this kind of system a new mobile SoC probably provides the chooch factor to do what you want anyway.

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