AMD announces Navi GPUs, 3rd Gen Ryzen CPUs

[Tabbykatze]

Bit of an anticlimax for me, most of what they announced was already strongly suspected and the release is four weeks later than i was hoping.

The leaks matched expectations and only was a month behind your expectation.

You must be great to buy for for your birthday and Christmas

Edit: well, matched somewhat, clocks are a little lower than expected

[simonpreston]

I'll be looking to the 3800X as a replacement for the my 1700. May wait a few months for the prices to drop though.

3900X is definitely on the 'want one' list, also.

[watercooled]

Edit: well, matched somewhat, clocks are a little lower than expected

IMO looking at clocks for a new microarchitecture is a bit pointless anyway, it's an almost meaningless value without context. E.g. at least in AMD's Cinebench results, it's roughly matching or beating Skylake@5.0GHz, just likely without the power/heat penalty of having to clock that high.

[Tabbykatze]

IMO looking at clocks for a new microarchitecture is a bit pointless anyway, it's an almost meaningless value without context. E.g. at least in AMD's Cinebench results, it's roughly matching or beating Skylake@5.0GHz, just likely without the power/heat penalty of having to clock that high.

Oh yes, sorry, i was not intending to cast a negative. If AMD can match Skylake at 5GHz but with lower clocks that can only mean the IPC is even higher which means the Engineers should get an extra cookie with their coffee in the morning for a while!

[=assassin=]

IPC improvements look very promising. I can't wait to see some proper independant reviews! I couldn't personally justify spending more than what the 3700X looks to be going for, so that would likely be of most interest to me for now, although perhaps a few months down the line, the 3800X might have better pricing. The 3900X is the most desirable option with 12 cores, but the price is far above what I would be willing to realistically pay.

[watercooled]

Oh yes, sorry, i was not intending to cast a negative. If AMD can match Skylake at 5GHz but with lower clocks that can only mean the IPC is even higher which means the Engineers should get an extra cookie with their coffee in the morning for a while!

Yeah that wasn't intended as a response to yourself, but I've already seen a few places around the net claiming disappointment that it's 'not beating Intel's 5GHz'.

[LSG501]

Shame would have liked to have seen a 'consumer' 16/32 ryzen 3 over a 12/24 but I suppose that's being kept for later or being deliberately kept off the list to make us buy threadripper with the increased cost.

[Corky34]

The leaks matched expectations and only was a month behind your expectation.

You must be great to buy for for your birthday and Christmas

Edit: well, matched somewhat, clocks are a little lower than expected

I wasn't so much talking about leaks but AMD basically just repeated what they've said in the past about the increased FP + Integer and larger cache.

I was expecting them to divulge something new and apart from the clock speeds that i was fairly sure the leakers were way off on, i always expected around a 200-400Mhz clock speed bump over Zen+ so the 4.6Ghz was a little under where i was expecting the maximum to be.

IDK i was just expecting something new, something that wasn't on this list of changes from Zen+ that they've previously talked about in tech days, horizon events, and financial analysis days.

And people wouldn't dare buy me something for a Bday or Xmas.

[Tabbykatze]

I wasn't so much talking about leaks but AMD basically just repeated what they've said in the past about the increased FP + Integer and larger cache.

I was expecting them to divulge something new and apart from the clock speeds that i was fairly sure the leakers were way off on, i always expected around a 200-400Mhz clock speed bump over Zen+ so the 4.6Ghz was a little under where i was expecting the maximum to be.

IDK i was just expecting something new, something that wasn't on this list of changes from Zen+ that they've previously talked about in tech days, horizon events, and financial analysis days.

And people wouldn't dare buy me something for a Bday or Xmas.

Well it's exactly the same cores in EPYC as it is in Zen. Sounds like you set yourself uo for disappointment

[Corky34]

I wouldn't say i was disappointed, as i said it was more an anticlimax as i was expecting something 'new', something like if XFR has been tweaked, more info on that I/O die, etc, etc. I guess I'll have to wait until until they divulge a few more details as this seem more like them firing the starting gun for the hype train.

[Iota]

While I like the look of the top end, was there any news about Zen2 chips with graphics? I'd be interested to see if they come with Navi, more than interested.

[Tabbykatze]

While I like the look of the top end, was there any news about Zen2 chips with graphics? I'd be interested to see if they come with Navi, more than interested.

Nothing yet

I can't wait to see if the graohics are chiplet based then it could be really exciting for next gen APUs

[Xlucine]

I can see chiplet graphics coming in real handy with the next-gen console design - cheaper silicon means they'll be able to squeeze more CUs in.

[3dcandy]

Bit of an anticlimax for me, most of what they announced was already strongly suspected and the release is four weeks later than i was hoping.

Aye but it's the platform and added extras that mean a lot to me. And that rumoured $99 for a 6c12t part is super exciting as for me that would be a great part in my music pc at that price point

[3dcandy]

I can see chiplet graphics coming in real handy with the next-gen console design - cheaper silicon means they'll be able to squeeze more CUs in.

My thoughts exactly... also for a high end Navi gfx part

[watercooled]

Just to update a previous post, AMD did actually show a game benchmark vs Intel in their CES talk, running PUBG comparing 9900k and 3800X - the 3800X being on-par or very slightly ahead.
https://youtu.be/_96stDCb-mk?t=1h2m12s