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    Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    What motherboard will you choose to get the most from a 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen CPU?
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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Contrary to what ASUS blog says, their "Strix X570-I Gaming" offering is ITX, NOT mATX!

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    The mini-DTX offerings look very interesting. A suitable alternative to the much sought after mATX?

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    I'm going to have to cut cost on these boards and find cheaper ones below the $200 range. They look nice except they are way too expensive in this economy now. I think my new budget price will be as close to $160 as possible. I will have to make of list of what I really need and mark the check box. Instead of Asus and it's overpriced boards. I will be looking to switch companies for something else. I love Asus uefi/bios though. I might go back to Gigabyte or give MSi a try this round.

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    The mini-DTX offerings look very interesting. A suitable alternative to the much sought after mATX?
    So long as you're fine with 2 RAM slots, and no expansion cards other than the GPU. Other than making it a bit easier to tetris the components onto the board, I don't see what MDTX does that MITX doesn't

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    So long as you're fine with 2 RAM slots, and no expansion cards other than the GPU. Other than making it a bit easier to tetris the components onto the board, I don't see what MDTX does that MITX doesn't
    It seems to be that mini DTX could offer a second PCIe slot but does allow for a lot more options for IO with a marginal board size increase.

    I'm not too fond of the mini ITX because it feels super cramped. Which is likely to be a similar feeling to mini ITX but at least there are slightly better options.

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    It seems to be that mini DTX could offer a second PCIe slot but does allow for a lot more options for IO with a marginal board size increase.

    I'm not too fond of the mini ITX because it feels super cramped. Which is likely to be a similar feeling to mini ITX but at least there are slightly better options.
    It could if paired with an APU or single slot GPU, and you could fit more SATA or m.2 ports on it as well. It'll still be cramped around the CPU, unless the board becomes wider - and then you've basically got a small MATX!

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    I'm quite annoyed that there's seemingly no X570 board without active chipset cooling. Had my eyes set on the ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE for its advertised ECC memory support and it *looked* to be passively cooled. Alas, upon closer inspection of the available images it has a fan as well. *sadface*

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    I'm quite annoyed that there's seemingly no X570 board without active chipset cooling. Had my eyes set on the ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE for its advertised ECC memory support and it *looked* to be passively cooled. Alas, upon closer inspection of the available images it has a fan as well. *sadface*
    This has been said loads..... the chipset uses up to about 12w under heavy loads if gen4 io is used. Simply not possible to passive cool such an amount. MSI for example have fan profiles on the board for the chipset fan. If you want that bandwidth you need active cooling. Also see the gigabyte 5 gig ssd - needs active cooling to operate at full speed for any length of time, but as most ssd's only operate in quick bursts it is fine with a cooler strapped on, and also the corsair new ssd has an intricate cooler. Heck the top msi boards now come with a cooling implimentation to suit the board for your ssd's

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    And before anyone chips in with it's not needed - that's over 3 times as much bandwidth as most recent boards - remember gen 4 for gfx is TWICE the bandwidth
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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    This has been said loads..... the chipset uses up to about 12w under heavy loads if gen4 io is used. Simply not possible to passive cool such an amount. MSI for example have fan profiles on the board for the chipset fan. If you want that bandwidth you need active cooling. Also see the gigabyte 5 gig ssd - needs active cooling to operate at full speed for any length of time, but as most ssd's only operate in quick bursts it is fine with a cooler strapped on, and also the corsair new ssd has an intricate cooler. Heck the top msi boards now come with a cooling implimentation to suit the board for your ssd's

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    And before anyone chips in with it's not needed - that's over 3 times as much bandwidth as most recent boards - remember gen 4 for gfx is TWICE the bandwidth
    I know *why* there's active chipset cooling. TBH, I had only thought it necessary for the 15W version, but apparently they can't even make passive cooling work for the 11W version. Also, I don't really need PCIe 4.0 for an SSD (other people might though, so there's that) and the graphics cards hang on the PCIe 4.0 lanes provided by the CPU. Those chipset fans have a tendency to croak at the most inopportune moments. Considering most are heavily customized versions you can't even just swap them out.

    At this point I'm looking really hard at an X470 board instead. Might even be able to get a bargain.

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    and if you look at all the early stuff the mobo guys have said standard 40 or 45mm fans with connectors for warranty purposes and fan profiles. Read somewhere, and can't find it right now that Intel chipsets aren't going gen 4 yet as they pull circa 20w.

    It's a choice - if you want the bandwidth you'll need a fan for now
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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    I'm quite annoyed that there's seemingly no X570 board without active chipset cooling. Had my eyes set on the ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE for its advertised ECC memory support and it *looked* to be passively cooled. Alas, upon closer inspection of the available images it has a fan as well. *sadface*
    We'll probably get more details closer to launch and i would imagine fan profiles for the PCH will feature in there somewhere, most of them will have fans but not all of them will be spinning all the time is what I'm trying to say.

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    I'm quite annoyed that there's seemingly no X570 board without active chipset cooling. Had my eyes set on the ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE for its advertised ECC memory support and it *looked* to be passively cooled. Alas, upon closer inspection of the available images it has a fan as well. *sadface*
    I just watched a preview of the Gigabyte range of X570 motherboards, and their top-end offering (of course) has passive heat-pipe cooling for the chipset. You'll need deep pockets though - the estimated price was $600.

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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    AMD has uploaded a blog post about its new AM4 X570 Chipset.


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    Re: Asus, Gigabyte and MSI show off AMD X570 motherboards

    My socket 939 Asus board had a small fan on the northbridge back in the day. It made a funny buzzing noise, so I replaced it with a Zalman passive heatsink which blocked the second GPU socket that I was never going to use. I suspect similar will happen here.

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