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    Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    And AMD Radeon RX 5900, 5800, 5700, and 5600 series graphics cards are listed too.
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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    So...AMD was sandbagging with the 5700...?

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    nVidia AIBP's: *release army of the same product with slightly different parts and names*
    Me: *gains lots of choices*
    AMD: what did it cost?
    Me: EVERYTHING

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    So...AMD was sandbagging with the 5700...?
    I had an idea that they were sandbagging. As the lineup, they announced was next to nothing.

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    So...AMD was sandbagging with the 5700...?
    As long as we're not getting yet another rebrand..

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo66 View Post
    I had an idea that they were sandbagging. As the lineup, they announced was next to nothing.
    That was my thought as well, just 2 gpus, seriously?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    As long as we're not getting yet another rebrand..
    Absolutely, but that is a very diverse numbering stack, i hope it means the 5700XT and 5700 were just the initial launch product. But then why did they not go all in, it's like they announced the flagship ryzen second. What marketing game is AMD playing?

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    What marketing game is AMD playing?
    The "Don't tip off your competitor too soon" one...?

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    They always said they were targeting the upper mid range market first and would fill out the product stack up and down afterwards, so not totally unexpected.

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    SMH....How the h*** will I be able to choose the right RTX2060S in all of this?!
    And what is the difference between all these names ending C* and D* skus from Gigabyte?! Sigh....

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Or they are just reserving names for future products, means nothing else is coming in near future (2019)
    The more you live, less you die. More you play, more you die. Isn't it great.

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    Or they are just reserving names for future products, means nothing else is coming in near future (2019)
    I'm not sure that shipping manifests are the place to do that. But it could also just be obfuscation I guess.

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I'm not sure that shipping manifests are the place to do that. But it could also just be obfuscation I guess.
    I don't think it is actually a shipping manifest despite being called so in the Hexus article but a trademark registration.

    From the Videocards article: "We suspect that these are just placeholders. Sapphire simply registered all possible trademarks to save time. It seems very unlikely that Radeon RX 5000 series would feature that many SKUs."

    The translated EEC website has the words 'A single register of... etc' and an Expiry date, which would suit a trademark registration.

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    So, knowing how AMD and Nvidia play this game and how Inhell was treated recently by AMD, we might be able to suggest that they were sandbagging. So AMD had something in the bag with the high end 16C32T Ryzen but held back until Intel had showed their hand. So rather than release the top of the range stuff right away, they stepped back to see if they needed to and also perhaps to decide on things like final clock speeds. They might have been less conservative with the clocks and risked more product failures if Intel had responded differently. So, with GPUs we know Nvidia tend to try and saturate every single possible price point in the market with a product for every budget even to the point of releasing multiple different GPUs under the same name to make the most of variable fab production amongst other things.

    AMD are far more targetted in that they will look for three places in the market to pitch products and these relate to where the peaks in sales are. So they had a while back the RX4xx and the Vega56 and Vega64. This correlated to the peaks which were the sort of mid range stuff, the upper mid range and high end. They did not compete at the ultra high end by design due to the huge R&D costs and the relatively small sales at this point in the market.

    So, it is quite possible they have waited for Nvidia to saturate the market to give loads of data points. The lifecycle of GPUs these days means you don't have to rush something out every 6 months as the lifespan is maybe 3 years. So you can sit back, wait a little for the data to come in and then optimise your product's firmware to fit them exactly where you see the most sales in the market, your competitor having already done the market research for you. Sure, you may lose a few months of sales but Nvidia has revealed their hand, the market has been shaped for the next couple of years are your products can be positioned exactly where you want them to be for maximum return.

    And that is why I'm wasted working with hearts when I could be a profiteering bar stuard.

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    yeah if that 5700XT is 499 that 5950XT will be 800+

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    Quote Originally Posted by PC-LAD View Post
    nVidia AIBP's: *release army of the same product with slightly different parts and names*
    Me: *gains lots of choices*
    AMD: what did it cost?
    Me: EVERYTHING
    Me: xD

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    Re: Multitude of Nvidia GeForce RTX Super graphics cards hit EEC

    So they finally figured out performance on the RTX line was so crap that noone was buying them so they have to start factory OCing. lol

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