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    Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Firm has biggest 5G spectrum holding and has revealed plans for home broadband too.
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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Whoopie-doo, 5G broadband...

    I live in a small village in West Somerset, miles from the nearest towns. Bugger all chance of seeing 5G within the next 5 years.

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Whoopie-doo, 5G broadband...

    I live in a small village in West Somerset, miles from the nearest towns. Bugger all chance of seeing 5G within the next 5 years.
    What will you ever do with it anyway?

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Whoopie-doo, 5G broadband...

    I live in a small village in West Somerset, miles from the nearest towns. Bugger all chance of seeing 5G within the next 5 years.
    I live in a small town a couple of miles from Southampton and only get a 4g signal from one firm and even then not strongly! I can't get smart meter currently due to this

    I'll be amazed if I get 5G in the next 5 years...

    Suppose I shouldn't complain as at least I can get 28Mb FTTC (but that still feels pretty poor in a town of 20000+)
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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Interesting - wonder if their claims will come true...I personally have a very low opinion of 3UK and at the moment wouldn't consider them over EE (mostly due to coverage and real world performance of their 4G network), but if they really can offer faster 5G, with enough bandwidth/coverage and they have finally sorted out their (previously) appauling CS process, then I might make the jump next year.

    One to keep an eye on I think

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    All very good but I somehow doubt they'll offer me a 5G plan equal to what I've currently got with them and their 4G service...Unlimited data, unlimited calls & unlimited texts for £27 a month.

    35-45Mbit 24/7, fast enough for 4K Netflix,Amazon & Youtube streaming (any time of day) and I regularly use over 600GB a month so I'm pretty happy with the cost.

    I guess the bit about them improving 4G speeds sounds interesting but I'll believe that when I see it.

    I live in one of the cities listed to get 5G this year but would anyone want to take a guess as to how much they'd want for the same level of service but at 5G speeds? I'd be surprised if its less than £60pm.

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Interesting - wonder if their claims will come true...I personally have a very low opinion of 3UK and at the moment wouldn't consider them over EE (mostly due to coverage and real world performance of their 4G network), but if they really can offer faster 5G, with enough bandwidth/coverage and they have finally sorted out their (previously) appauling CS process, then I might make the jump next year.

    One to keep an eye on I think
    I can't say I've had any major issues with them TBH. Until the next round of spectrum auctions they have substantially more 5G spectrum than anyone else, as well as fewer customers to share between, so in areas they cover on roll-out it's reasonable to expect faster speeds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    All very good but I somehow doubt they'll offer me a 5G plan equal to what I've currently got with them and their 4G service...Unlimited data, unlimited calls & unlimited texts for £27 a month.

    35-45Mbit 24/7, fast enough for 4K Netflix,Amazon & Youtube streaming (any time of day) and I regularly use over 600GB a month so I'm pretty happy with the cost.

    I guess the bit about them improving 4G speeds sounds interesting but I'll believe that when I see it.

    I live in one of the cities listed to get 5G this year but would anyone want to take a guess as to how much they'd want for the same level of service but at 5G speeds? I'd be surprised if its less than £60pm.
    I've said it before but I'd be surprised if anyone offered unlimited 5G for any price at this stage, especially now tethering restrictions have been somewhat disallowed by the EU IIRC. It would be possible for people to replace fixed-line and consume an immense amount of data which would just cost the operator money. It's also a shared medium and they want a majority of people using it to get decent speeds as a reason to upgrade from 4G, and having a few people constantly hammering the network would have some impact on that which they have to consider.

    WRT 4G speeds, they like other networks are still rolling out antenna improvements like massive MIMO, beamforming, etc, along with spectrum refarming. In addition, they'll have some traffic offloaded to the more spectrally-efficient 5G RAN.

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    so how much, percentage wise, is the leap from 4G to 5G ?

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Quote Originally Posted by jigjog888 View Post
    so how much, percentage wise, is the leap from 4G to 5G ?
    Cost or speed?
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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Furthermore, it claims to be "the only operator who can offer a 'true' 5G experience which requires 100MHz of 5G spectrum, as set out by the ITU, the global standards body on 5G technology".
    Sigh, someone in marketing needs a damn good kick up the backside.

    Ofcom hasn't even released the bands, nor auctioned them off yet, to provide a "true" 5G experience. Also Three has misled the spectrum holdings of the operators in it's chart, some of the spectrum held by operators is in the MHz frequency that can be re-purposed towards 5G services.

    https://5g.co.uk/guides/5g-uk-auction/
    https://5g.co.uk/guides/5g-frequenci...-need-to-know/

    Three are essentially lying through their teeth.

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Part of the spectrum auctions have already taken place, and three also gained a large amount of spectrum from their purchase of UK Broadband, so what they're claiming is true.

    WRT spectrum refarming, can does not mean will - the operators cannot simply redeploy all of their 3/4G spectrum as 5G overnight. Besides legal reasons you have technical issues such as reconfiguring or replacing hardware at base sites and causing considerable congestion on LTE bands. Refarming is a more viable option when traffic is already being migrated to the newer technology, freeing up existing spectrum.

    They're really not lying about anything. Marketing, sure, but not lying.

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Can't see why they won't have unlimited data for 5g as its not as bandwidth limited as 3g and 4g is (I get acceptable 4g speeds where I am generally around 5-10mb/s) from a billing perspective we are not usa and don't norm charge for 4g or 5g (phones that are the cost factor to support the 5g) you just have to be on a newer plan witch might cost more because it has more data

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Cost or speed?
    both speed and cost, also the ratio of cost vs increased speed

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Quote Originally Posted by leexgx View Post
    Can't see why they won't have unlimited data for 5g as its not as bandwidth limited as 3g and 4g is (I get acceptable 4g speeds where I am generally around 5-10mb/s) from a billing perspective we are not usa and don't norm charge for 4g or 5g (phones that are the cost factor to support the 5g) you just have to be on a newer plan witch might cost more because it has more data
    It would come down to how they expect people to use it e.g. traffic models. Like I said earlier in the thread, they will want to keep speeds high for the majority, not just provide a high-speed fixed-line replacement for a low cost to a few people maxing the cell, it just doesn't make business sense to do that, especially if they're not going to cap speeds or traffic manage in any way. In addition, data is not free nor unlimited as far as the operator is concerned.

    Compared to 3G/4G, bandwidth is higher yes, but so are max data rates, so it pretty much cancels out.

    OTOH there are more technologies present in 5G to better share the spectrum. But just to repeat myself again I would be surprised if *any* mobile operator offered unlimited 5G at this stage, and even more so at anything close to price parity; the potential for abuse is significant and the mobile networks really aren't capable of handling the potential influx of fixed-line replacements that could attract, and not being able to restrict or slow tethering really ties their hands. They're not in the business of putting themselves out of business.

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    Colour me surprised. https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...ited-data.html

    I do wonder what speeds will look like though. Sure there are fewer users vs 4G but at the moment they have 50MHz of spectrum, so something on the order of 1-3Gbps total bandwidth per sector depending on configuration. Real world aggregate tends to be substantially less for various reasons e.g. distant users eating bandwidth at lower modulation rates.

    A very bold move given they're up against a company with substantially more bandwidth!

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    Re: Three announces "UK's fastest 5G" will launch in August

    I guess that means there will be a 5G plan from Three to match my current 4G plan and they're not going to be able to price it at crazy levels ....thanks Vodaphone.

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