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The lack of overclocking headroom is disappointing.
BUT the new 3rd gens look decent/appealing overall :)
I'm seeing this as a positive instead of a negative, it means that AMD have extracted everything that they can from the chips as "stock". Overclocking is soon to be a thing of the past with turbo/boost clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeetyMcLeet
Not really. It means they can advertise a product that is "pushing the boundaries" but really they aren't producing the product on high quality materials and processes. How do we know even now that the silicone that is being used for zen2 is a good batch, where is the comparison? we wont know, because we don't even know what should be getting as the consumer. Back to the point at hand, great value and i just need biostar to sort out my bios issues :angst:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoonigan
The 3600 looks like the right upgrade for me but I'd like to see the B550 motherboards before I decide. I can live with it for a little while longer.
im holding judgment until Hexus releases its revies of the Ryzen 5 and lower end 7 series, however, I will say that the high-end units are rather attractive compared to Intel's units, specifically the performance per watt.
I'm pretty pleased with this AMD CPUs. Maybe Intel with a similar production process (in term of nm) may do better, but AMD is NOW, Intel who knows...
Yes, they (again) a new higher level of performance on all consumer levels.
Something that Intel could do, but prefered to milk its fan base.
Hope people understand this and give AMD full support now (with their new builds),
as this time you are not losing on performance.
The Ryzen 3000 series, as has been tested so far, has lived up to my expectations ...and possibly even exceeded them somewhat. Unless something unexpected should come to light my next rig will definitely be powered by a Ryzen 3000 series CPU. Which one, I don't quite know yet, but most likely a 3700X.
The X570 chipset, and motherboards based on it, on the other hand has managed to underwhelm me. The need for active chipset cooling, the seemingly high power draw and the high prices really turn me off. I'm much more inclined to go for an X470 motherboard, but I'm afraid that support of these boards will be neglected in favour of the new boards.
Kind of in the middle really as early benchmarks I've seen show the 3rd gens shining in expected places where a high core count is favourable compared to Intel, and as I do a lot of video production and rendering this is a tempting lure, but with my love of gaming I don't think its close enough to similar or slightly higher Intel price point to sway me all in.
I still find myself spending a higher percentage of the day in Photoshop, which seems not too fussed on cores (at the moment) so for the time being will use that and gaming performance to convince myself my hyperthreaded gamble has paid off in shelling out on a 9700K..... although if I can get enough coin in pocket I might persuade myself a dedicated R9 3900X production rig would be chuffing well nice :)
I didn't have any to begin with. But it's a great product line.
Don't fully know yet... on paper yes but until the 3950x is released properly and tested thoroughly it's still a little early to say.
Having said that the odds are I'm going AMD on my next build unless Intel brings out something special for the same cost as the 3950x, and I mean something special as I'm still not impressed by the performance loss from spectre etc.
Reviews of the 3600 (Gamers Nexus) make it seem a real bargain and quite good enough for most uses.
Didn't stop me ordering a 3700X though, which hopefully turns up on Monday :)
The code compiling benchmarks are awesome which is my normal workload, and for the evenings it should game nicely too.
I'm more than pleased for AMD of late, about time Intel got a kickup the proverbial for sitting on it.I didn't really need to upgrade from my Phenom X4 965 as I'm not obsessed with speed and don't game ,( and it still runs beautifully ) but I fancied a change. I passed on the 1st Ryzen
to let things mature a little and settled on a Ryzen 5 2600 when memory prices started to become acceptable. After research went for an ArcticE Sports duo , MSI B450 Pro Carbon and 16GB 3200 GSkill Trident Z. I have it @ 4ghz, 1.25v and memory at 3400 and idles at 29 degrees with very little tweaking. looking at the reviews on the new Ryzen I think AMD have done what they promised but hope they have some aces up their sleeve for whatever Intel doe's next. I've built PC's since 286 days using various chips from AMD , Intel , Cyrix, IBM , Transdata etc and am not a "Fan Boy " by any means but AMD have always seemed to give better value for money for us poor peasants out there. It's about time AMD got a decent slice of the pie and I think this time round they have earned it , might just wake Intel up (maybe ).
Yes, i am very glad Intel and AMD are fighting on equal feet now. It means future releases will be Intel vs AMD and not Intel having high performing chips and AMD "just trying to be different".
I am eyeing up a 3700X for my new build.
There was a rumour of Zen 3 having 3 threads per core. Different enough for you? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tabbykatze
I always thought a 4 thread BIOS option would be good for workstation like workloads, gamers would probably want to stick with 2 threads though.