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    Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Info about four discrete Xe GPUs was buried in an Intel graphics driver release, since removed.
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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Just like with the 5g modems, Intel keeps on fueling the hypetrain. I'm so glad AMD is finally competitive in the CPU market.

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Have we heard any more about fabrication of these GPUs? It's just, GPUs tend to be pretty big, and 10nm yields are supposedly not brilliant at the moment. It also makes you wonder about clock speed when the CPUs produced on that 10nm node seem to have regressed in clocks vs 14nm.

    I think it's quite optimistic to expect Intel to produce something all-around competitive right out of the gate. In fairness they have some big names working for them, and they should have learned some lessons from trying it in the past so maybe it's not fair to judge based on that. It would seem the odds are stacked against them at the moment though.

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    @watercooled; Of course building huge monolithic designs are expensive, so it was much more practical to take existing Intel HD graphics and glue... I mean synergize... our graphics wow factor to action our best practices and meet strategic goals for a holistic... anyway onto the next slide,

    We call this synergy... Intel Limitless Silk... Unbounded possiblities running smooth as fabr- silk! Smooth as silk.

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    So Nvidia has NvLink what will iNTEL call theirs? Pentium Link?

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    So Nvidia has NvLink what will iNTEL call theirs? Pentium Link?
    CXL I imagine.

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    So Nvidia has NvLink what will iNTEL call theirs? Pentium Link?
    Why would they need a link? PCIe is fine.

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Top picture tells me:

    Epeen > performance

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Designing it is one world of pain
    Making it is a whole other world of pain

    that, for the mathematicially challenged in 2 worlds of pain.
    With NVID and AMD slugging it pout after decades of pain... losing a few of the top boys to Intel doesn't lessen the pain.

    I'm guessing decidely mid to low range GPU offerings

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    Designing it is one world of pain
    Making it is a whole other world of pain

    that, for the mathematicially challenged in 2 worlds of pain.
    With NVID and AMD slugging it pout after decades of pain... losing a few of the top boys to Intel doesn't lessen the pain.

    I'm guessing decidely mid to low range GPU offerings
    Marketing it is the bigger pain. Get that right and you'll sell even inferior products.

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    Designing it is one world of pain
    Making it is a whole other world of pain

    that, for the mathematicially challenged in 2 worlds of pain.
    With NVID and AMD slugging it pout after decades of pain... losing a few of the top boys to Intel doesn't lessen the pain.

    I'm guessing decidely mid to low range GPU offerings
    Why bother entering a new market if you can't decidedly beat everyone else in it? Especially if you have intel levels of money to through at ideas. I'll be very surprised if the first intel GPU doesn't have the X080ti firmly in sight

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    Why bother entering a new market if you can't decidedly beat everyone else in it? Especially if you have intel levels of money to through at ideas. I'll be very surprised if the first intel GPU doesn't have the X080ti firmly in sight
    Because Intel has enough cash in the war chest they don't need a winning product out the door, they can have a mid range product, gauge the market and get feedback and win on the second/third gen.

    Intel will win themselves no favours going both feet first against two other companies with 30 years of experience between them.

    But this is Intel, they could try and go the whole 9 yards before they have a chance to understand where they're at xD

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    But this is Intel, they could try and go the whole 9 yards before they have a chance to understand where they're at xD
    Ha...i740 anyone?

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    You dont expect to win on your first race .. as long as they're vaguely competitive they will suck up the losses and come back for the second round. ANyway these will be targeted at the AI/ML crowd and the fact they can do gfx is just a by-product :datacentre:
    AMD +Nvidia 40yrs + experience.
    Xe is quite Chinese in its format/derivation ??

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by persimmon View Post
    Xe is quite Chinese in its format/derivation ??
    What do you mean?

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    Re: Intel leaks Xe graphics card codenames and details

    Quote Originally Posted by persimmon View Post
    Xe is quite Chinese in its format/derivation ??
    AIUI its a sad marketing thing for X to the exponential power, implying superb scaling in some sort of MCM package with up to 4 chiplets. In reality nX scaling isn't achievable, let alone x^n.

    As for it being targeted at the data center, it seems more likely they will target laptops where machines with a 1050 class DGPU are plentiful low hanging fruit.

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