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    Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Cooper Lake chips offer AI training acceleration in a standard socketed CPU, starting from 2020.
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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    "Standard socket" - does that mean they're going to stop changing a single pin here and there to make us all buy new mobos? Or does it just mean the socket isn't stupidly big?

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Did anyone else read "bloat16 support"? In the era of custom inference & training silicon this AI feature really seems beyond too little too late.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    "Standard socket" - does that mean they're going to stop changing a single pin here and there to make us all buy new mobos? Or does it just mean the socket isn't stupidly big?
    Nope, new socket.

    You can see what they're doing, they want people to buy the cooper lake so they can upgrade to ice lake. But the mobile parts really aren't that promising on 10nm at low power, will it scale high power?

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    "Standard socket" - does that mean they're going to stop changing a single pin here and there to make us all buy new mobos? Or does it just mean the socket isn't stupidly big?
    I'd imagine that's their way of saying the consumer-focused socket, rather than server ones.

    There's no way they're going to give up on their insistence of making a new socket as often as they can.

    EDIT: Scratch that. I've now actually read the article it was mentioned in. I guess it means that the server board you put it in doesn't have to have any particular bells and whistles that may not be available on others.
    Last edited by Output; 06-08-2019 at 07:01 PM. Reason: Actually read the article.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Nope, new socket.

    You can see what they're doing, they want people to buy the cooper lake so they can upgrade to ice lake. But the mobile parts really aren't that promising on 10nm at low power, will it scale high power?
    I'll be honest, my question was hopeful but mostly just purely sarcastic.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I'll be honest, my question was hopeful but mostly just purely sarcastic.
    Your powers of text based sarcasm continue to serve you well!

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I'll be honest, my question was hopeful but mostly just purely sarcastic.
    Your powers of text based sarcasm continue to serve you well!
    As shown on the AMD/Samsung galaxy article

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    dubbed LGA4189....

    Wait 4189. Can't wait to see the boards now second hand - spares or repairs, can be fixed easily, only just over a thousand slightly bent pins...
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by Output View Post
    ... EDIT: Scratch that. I've now actually read the article it was mentioned in. I guess it means that the server board you put it in doesn't have to have any particular bells and whistles that may not be available on others.
    My reading is more that current AI-focussed stuff tends to be add-in boards, while Intel are baking that into a CPU that you drop in a socket. Hardly earth shattering. I'd also assume this is an MCM of the existing 28-core Xeon scalable silicon: apparently the whole "glued together is bad" position has gone out the window now we all know that AMD will be releasing 64-core server CPUs this year...

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    My reading is more that current AI-focussed stuff tends to be add-in boards, while Intel are baking that into a CPU that you drop in a socket. Hardly earth shattering. I'd also assume this is an MCM of the existing 28-core Xeon scalable silicon: apparently the whole "glued together is bad" position has gone out the window now we all know that AMD will be releasing 64-core server CPUs this year...
    Intel are quietly eating their words in a corner hoping no one will notice...

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Intel are quietly eating their words in a corner hoping no one will notice...
    I'd personally say that Intel have been furiously stuffing anything related to their previous comments into their prison wallet and that they are boisterously shouting about how amazing and innocent they are to anyone who will listen whilst a bunch of people who aren't blind or stupid stand around watching unimpressed.

    EDIT: Reminds me of reality cop shows on telly where everyone has seen him selling meth but he's "hidden" it, thinking everyone else is stupid and that if he denies it loudly enough people will believe him.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Oops, Intel hit by another vulnerability. So this 56 core is now a non hyper threaded SKU for security purposes! XD

    SWAPGS if you do news.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Oops, Intel hit by another vulnerability. So this 56 core is now a non hyper threaded SKU for security purposes! XD

    SWAPGS if you do news.
    https://arstechnica.com/information-...om-intel-cpus/

    AMD are coming out surprisingly well out of these things.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    https://arstechnica.com/information-...om-intel-cpus/

    AMD are coming out surprisingly well out of these things.
    It is very surprising, but not without merit to their design decisions and quality of engineers.

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    Re: Intel announces Xeon Scalable processors with up to 56 cores

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    My reading is more that current AI-focussed stuff tends to be add-in boards, while Intel are baking that into a CPU that you drop in a socket.
    That does make a lot more sense than what I was thinking.

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