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The Home Use Program (HUP) now only offers discounts on Office 365 subscriptions.
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The Home Use Program (HUP) now only offers discounts on Office 365 subscriptions.
Bit of a change from the old £10 license :-(
Not exactly a bargain either... guess I won't be using HUP again any time soon.
Just another reason why not to use MS Office.
I can hear the rumbling of displeasure for the term "as a service" coming in thick and fast...
Open Office (and Libre Office) is perfectly good for most use - I don’t use anything else.
We in Pakistan are stuck with MS since perpetuity, regardless of how much it costs or what it does. Most will always use its pirated versions and organizations will always buy or pirate it depending on their priorities. It has become a social need and also a thing to fit in the society. People using something else are scorned upon, even by professionals and members of the related industries.
Funny how he just happened to stumble upon it.
Companies who are on the scheme were notified 6 months ago that it was ending on the 1st of august.
Hence I purchased office 2019 for peanuts whilst it was still available.
Don't have access to this so it doesn't affect me but then I'm still using office 2010 pro (plus visio 2010 and project 2010) which I was able to get super cheap due to family working at a school and being able to buy at education prices :)
Honestly see no real reason to upgrade either and as much as I think office sub is one of the few 'good value' subscriptions (not that I like subscriptions mind) especially if you can make use of the online storage part of it (I still don't have a reason to use it).
Indeed one can, and one has been seeing it as a trend, a direction of corporate travel, for several years, not least because MS made no sercret of them changing the way they "monetise" Windows and it's ecosystem round about the time they released Win8.0.Quote:
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Personally, it doesn't matter as I wasn't about to buy under the HUP anyway, and thede are no circumstances under which I'm paying for a subscription. None whatever. I have three different licenced but old perpetual versions which will do just fibe for my neecs, while I run those systems on Windows and, as Peterb said, Libre or Open Office on a couple of other machines where I've already migrated to Linux. Remaining machinez that have any office-type suites under Windows also have OO or LO.
This isn't to say I don't think the subscription services are pretty decent value. For many people, they are. And certainly a LOT cheaper than my perpetual licences, which include Access, were. The difference, and for me it's the end of the argument, is that with a perpetual licence, I can loom at that substantial cost as a one-off, and then, if it suits, stick with it for 10 years, or 20 years if I wish. An annual fee, for me, just results in being a part-paynent of a much, much larger overall, long-tetm cost.
That may well be preferable for many people tgat need, od even simply want, to alsags be up-to-date euth the latest version. But I font care about that.
It's like a chisel. A modern one might have a more comfortable fancy handle but it still does the same job as the chisels I inherited ftom my Dad .... who inherited many of them from his Dad. I just keep them sharp. Office, for me, is a tool fir a job and as either my old perpetual licences or indeed OO/LO, will do the job, I have no need fir a tool with a fancy new look. Any chisel that chisels properly will do the job, and my old versions of Office do the job I need.
How long before they do this with Win10?
Everythjng is movinb to XYZ-AAS. HP are moving their entire product to as-a-service based by 2022. Sophos are looking at that as well for firewall/endpoint offerings.Quote:
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The world of tomorrow is becoming a place the majority prefer operational expenditures over capital expenditures.
I wrote a long reply and sent it and it didn't post. AGH. Stupid work PCs. Doesn't do it anywhere else.
Summary: I hate them changing software I have learnt to use without any option or consultation. I despise becoming fluent in a program and them changing something I've been doing for years because "it's better". Just imagine if they decided an "ergonomic" keyboard was better and could overnight change your keyboard layout so you had to learn to type on it when you'd not asked for or wanted it? It's the same thing in my book.
Now, before I post.... CTRL+C....
I get the benefits that a steady income off businesses, but it doesn't offer me any benefit.
I use Office at home because it's best of breed. But this, like other products I use lightly and only entertain as the cost is reasonable. What these organisations don't seem to get is, people don't tend to annualise or depreciate assets over a year. I buy office to last me yeaaars, I have no need, and certainly no financial will to have the latest greatest all the time.
Given how lightly I use these products, I'm more than happy NOT to spend more money and move from best-of-breed to a "it pretty much does everything anyway" product, which there are plenty of. LibreOffice being the prime example.
I'm not sure it is best of breed, it just has almost ubiquitous compatibility.
Businesses might prefer "service" models because of the operational/capital issue, not least because of budgeting and tax issues .... neither of which affect most home users in the slightest.Quote:
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What it does do is to take the decision whetger to upgrade or not, or to decide tgat the chisel they've already bought and paid for is perfectly adequate and that they aren't prepared to keep paying out, every month or year for, if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor, the supplier's latest wonder-wheeze at what constitutes a re-invented wheel.
Will it happen? Probably. Why? Corporate profits. Is it in consumer's best interests? Usually not. If the companies thought they could sell the idea to home users, they'd run both models in parallel and let each consumer decide.
Personally, I can't think of any software that I'll buy as a service, with the possible exception of AV/security, not least because the on-going research and updates of virus etc) detection actually is a service.
Well comparability now, but that hadn’t used to be the case. Anyone who has used (or used) a recent (within the last 15 years) version of WordPerfect will know it is vastly superior in ease of use. It is just so sad that the MaC and *nix versions were discontinued.Quote:
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(Another advantage of the Open and Libre Office suites is that there are Mac and *nix versions)
I wonder if that's down to when someone first got into computers, speaking personally i find traditional designs far easier to use but i wonder if people who've only ever known 'modern' designed OS' and Office suites find pre-2010 as confusing as i find post-2010 stuff....i guess we won't know for a decade or so. :)Quote:
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Just realised I left a critical bit out of my previous post - like “WordPerfect” :Oops:
Bought Office 2010, 2013,2016 and 2019 via the HUP because i felt the tenner was money well spent (hell if they had charged 30 quid i would have still bought them) will i buy a subscription for a office product; not a hecking chance, its likely this will be my last office product on my own machine and i'll move away to something like OpenOffice or Libre Office esp since my laptop is running Linux Mint.
I know work are going to be moving to office 365 which i am not looking forward to in the slightest (i'll be honest i haven't liked office since any version after 2003)
I'm slowly moving everyone to Libre Office at work and home. As Open Office is hanging by a thread and the key developers moved to Libre I've stopped using OO. The support is far better for MS docs on Libre.
Microsoft are going the way of Adobe to a subscription only model.
I prefer WPS Office as MS Office just feels sluggish to use and very slow
Linux needs to up the GAME (literally, gaming) so I can switch of microsoft crap.
Why is nobody pushing this? NV/AMD/Intel? Why not kill MSFT or at least make a game of it?...We have had a crap OS for a decade (every version has been slower, more clicks, more crap in your way etc), and no end in sight with every intent of killing off you OWNING your copy (as iff you ever did anyway). Jeez, what do they have now 4 current broken versions? LOL. I will never pay a sub for an OS or office. Not going to happen. MSFT will soon create a massive amount of pirates...ROFL. Win7 death=pirates R us. I know people who have quit PC's (email on phone now, console or mobile gaming etc...ROFL - basically given up PC's) because of win10. That is not how you win customers. That is how other devices suddenly take a huge share of your devices. :)
Monitor sales projected to drop 2.9% yearly for 5yrs? You are failing MSFT. Get your OS together (fail win10 and move on to a WHOLE new OS), or die. My PC experience seems to get worse yearly, and no, it's not user error...ROFL.
Linux gaming has come on huge strides since August 18 when Steam proton launched. That's over 6000 windows games that just work on Linux now at the click of a button. And rising. They are upping their game.