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    Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Makes software encryption the default for newly encrypted drives.
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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Because Microsoft has such a stellar record when it comes to bug-free code...

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Because Microsoft has such a stellar record when it comes to bug-free code...
    That doesn't exonerate the SSD manufacturers.

    Because one doesn't have a stellar record doesn't excuse the issues found in others.

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Fantastic straw-man argument there azrael.

    It's a great shame the people tasked with implementing security have such a poor understanding with the fundamentals (such as not using a generic password for everybody).

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    More importantly - should we trust any closed & proprietary security platform that has no credible, comprehensive and continuous independent security auditing, regardless of manufacturer?

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    That doesn't exonerate the SSD manufacturers.

    Because one doesn't have a stellar record doesn't excuse the issues found in others.
    I quite agree with you on this. It's just with all the bungled updates, bugs and what not courtesy of Microsoft they probably shouldn't pretend to know better. I orginally intended to state "Pot, meet Kettle". Perhaps I should have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    Fantastic straw-man argument there azrael.

    It's a great shame the people tasked with implementing security have such a poor understanding with the fundamentals (such as not using a generic password for everybody).
    Not quite sure what you mean with "straw-man argument". I'm not defending manufacturers of SSDs. I just believe Microsoft should take care of their own flaws before pointing the finger.

    Quote Originally Posted by chinf View Post
    More importantly - should we trust any closed & proprietary security platform that has no credible, comprehensive and continuous independent security auditing, regardless of manufacturer?
    Very well said, tbh.

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    I quite agree with you on this. It's just with all the bungled updates, bugs and what not courtesy of Microsoft they probably shouldn't pretend to know better. I orginally intended to state "Pot, meet Kettle". Perhaps I should have.
    There's a big difference between bugs in millions of lines of code and secure enclave having a bug that allows you to reset all the encryption keys on a drive giving you full access to the encrypted contents.

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    So...if one has a drive that they have deemed untrustworthy, does bitlocker need turning off and on again to benefit from the update?

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    There's a big difference between bugs in millions of lines of code and secure enclave having a bug that allows you to reset all the encryption keys on a drive giving you full access to the encrypted contents.
    Not really. I'm saying this as a developer ...fighting bugs on a daily basis. A bug is a bug.

    TBH, if I really wanted software encryption I'd probably use VeraCrypt. At least that *is* open source and independently audited.

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    Re: Microsoft stops trusting SSD maker hardware encryption

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    Not really. I'm saying this as a developer ...fighting bugs on a daily basis. A bug is a bug.

    TBH, if I really wanted software encryption I'd probably use VeraCrypt. At least that *is* open source and independently audited.
    Bitlocker is independently audited and is trusted as an industry standard for Windows products, just as FileVault 2 is for Mac.

    Just because it's "Open Source" does not make it better or even more trustworthy, look at OpenSSL and Heartbleed.

    As a developer, then you should know the difference between a bug causing an issue and an egregious design flaw resulting in security being classified as "null".

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