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    UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    This means that roughly 3m UK premises should have access to ISPs offering gigabit speeds.
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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    openreach needs to sort my street out with fibre, i live within the m25 and still max i get on BT is 6mb

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by HEXUS View Post
    pledged to make full fibre available "for all by 2025".
    I live in a small village, west of Taunton. If we get FTTP or 5G, by 2025, I think I'll have a heart attack due to the shock.

    Last year Gigaclear leafleted us to say we would have FTTP in 2021, this summer that was pushed back to 2023 and now, they have lost the contract to do this because they are basically useless.

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Wonder if I'm considered in the 94.8% on Superfast? In theory I get around 30Mb but never do in practice! I'd be happy with a decent 50Mb connection - might as well wait for hell to freeze over. Still think its a miracle I get 30Mb - Its not like I live in a town near the exchange - oh wait I do! I blame it on ducted phone lines. Can't see BT being in hurry to replace the final hop anytime soon.
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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    I've heard that my address should be getting Gigabit+ internet from Virgin before the end of 2021. Currently getting just shy of 400Mbps, with an option to upgrade that to 560-570 if I want to, so I can happily wait for further improvements.
    I have a friend in Glasgow whose internet speed is limited by the Gigabit RJ45 connection on his motherboard and not the internet connection itself.

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    So what number is it we remove London and maybe the other major cities..... bet it's nowhere near that 10% being used.

    There is literally zero chance I'll see fttp before 2025 where I am, actually it's pretty unlikely anywhere near me in all honesty.


    edit: LOL... I'm based in Norfolk, who has 2% fttp, 29.9% for 100Mbps or above and 93.4% for 30Mbps and above. My actual part of Norfolk is even worse at 1.3%, 7% and 92.3% respectively... and we're not exactly rural lol
    I luckily get 80Mbps but obviously my area is shooting for the high numbers lol, having said that I have more issues with sites/downloads not being able to saturate my 80Mbps line so I think that needs to be looked at as well.
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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    While everything was going well in Switzerland and I think the coverage is way above 30%, it is in the stall now.
    Many providers think that 5G will be a more attractive product for the majority of the people.
    The first 5G users here in Zurich are saying that they are getting 700mb and speeds regularly and some even above 1Gb.


    Do you think the same will happen in other countries?
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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    While everything was going well in Switzerland and I think the coverage is way above 30%, it is in the stall now.
    Many providers think that 5G will be a more attractive product for the majority of the people.
    The first 5G users here in Zurich are saying that they are getting 700mb and speeds regularly and some even above 1Gb.


    Do you think the same will happen in other countries?
    I think it's pretty likely. Tearing up streets is not much fun, so if big cities can sell multiple subscriptions through upgrades on existing towers with no engineer visits then why not.

    Considering the average home is only streaming video in the worst case, 5G will do just fine.

    It may not be the first choice for people worried about ping times, but we are the minority for sure.

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Hyperoptic 940/940 Mbps ftw. Notice how the virgin media "gigabit" is going to be only 50Mbps upload, haha. The BT version still uses copper lines from the green boxes for 300/50 Mbps so isn't FTTP

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by konfliqt View Post
    The BT version still uses copper lines from the green boxes for 300/50 Mbps so isn't FTTP
    Until BT ditches copper for broadband connections it'll always be limited. I highly doubt they'll go there considering the likely costs involved. Apparently my area has 12% FTTP, probably skewed data from having a University with FTTP, and CityFiber connecting to a small proportion of our area.

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    I keep toying with the idea of paying out the thousands for Fibre On Demand, I'm planning on living where I am for a long time, so it'll probably pay off. That said, currently I don't need more than FTTC speeds.

    TrueSpeed are canvassing the area, but I don't want to go with them as from a small-business/geek perspective they're a rubbish ISP (no IPv6, no rDNS, no access to your own router, no hosting of any sorts, not even a /29 IPv4 allocation).

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    While everything was going well in Switzerland and I think the coverage is way above 30%, it is in the stall now.
    Many providers think that 5G will be a more attractive product for the majority of the people.
    The first 5G users here in Zurich are saying that they are getting 700mb and speeds regularly and some even above 1Gb.


    Do you think the same will happen in other countries?
    In some areas sure - however I'm lucky to get 4g in part of my property and even then only with 2 of the 5 real providers. I can't see my house ever getting 5g... Silly thing is I don't live in the middle of nowhere but a small town. I couldn't get a smart meter for similar reasons (thankfully).
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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    It may not be the first choice for people worried about ping times, but we are the minority for sure.
    Aside from gaming, I would also be working from home with a Gb connection. This requires access to certain applications which require a low ping, otherwise they're unusable. It's a problem we're experiencing even in the office, as our network here is also beyond a joke.
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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    Do you think the same will happen in other countries?
    Maybe to start with, then as more people sign on to it you'll start to see the usual congestion issues in the UK because if current mobile networks are anything to go by they won't invest enough in the infrastructure etc to give everyone the high speeds etc.

    Mind you where I live I struggle to get 3G let alone 4G lol

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    It may not be the first choice for people worried about ping times, but we are the minority for sure.
    To be fair, I've seen some pretty good pings on 4G, currently deep in a building I'm getting about 50ms on a standard congested network, which is entirely usable for most things. I can't imagine 5G will be worse.

    Mobile operators work in a very different way to fixed-line ISPs, and until they can offer something on a similar playing field then I can't see a wholesale rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish of users from fibre to wireless.

    My fixed-line is unlimited (truly), not especially contended, has fixed addressing etc.

    My current 4G signal gives me a private IP address (10.*) with carrier-grade NAT - it is clearly over-contended and more critically, I'm limited to X GB a month in traffic.

    As a technology it's fine, but it's the same reason why I'm not interested in TrueSpeed FTTP, the technology is fine, it's the product that runs on it that is poor.

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    Re: UK FTTP coverage passes 10 per cent milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by konfliqt View Post
    The BT version still uses copper lines from the green boxes for 300/50 Mbps so isn't FTTP
    Until BT ditches copper for broadband connections it'll always be limited.
    This. My parents are paying for 34/5 fibre but are getting tops of 9mbps down and around 1 up because they're around 4 miles from the exchange.

    I feel that openreach should be obligated to get fttp to anyone getting less than 50mpbs down before improving speeds for those getting better than that.

    I'll add that my parents are lucky to get 2g due to an unhelpfully placed hill opposite them on the street. 3g is hit and miss, 4g is still a pipe dream. Saying that 5g is the answer is as insulting as it gets.

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