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    Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    27-inch 1080p IPS monitor, AKA 'The Flash', is only available in China at the time of writing.
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    Re: Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    Brace yourself: dodgy infographics trying to convince you that super high refresh rates make a difference are coming! (I miss got, when it was good).

    There are 12 frames on screen for every one you can perceive! I totally agree that having a few extra frames is helpful, but this is getting like men's razors now, at some point you do get diminishing returns. You've given up resolution and image quality for a 4ms frame time when you can't perceive much less than 40ms (total time not latency).

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    Re: Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    High refresh rates do make a massive difference in competitive gaming, and the jump from 60-144hz is rather large and obvious...if your graphics card can keep up.
    The leap from 144-200hz though is much less noticeable, and again up to 240hz....I can imagine that diminishing returns will continue and the leap to 280hz isn't really going to make much difference. I can do 200hz on my monitor and hit the required FPS in CS:GO, and I cannot tell the difference once I get above 144hz....maybe some people can, but I am not convinced.

    Combine that with pretty poor specs all round and a relatively high price for the specs and I think China can keep this one to themselves

    LTT and Jayz2cents have done some really interesting tests on HRFR monitors, worth a look if you are interested in the difference it makes.

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    Re: Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by EN1R0PY View Post
    Brace yourself: dodgy infographics trying to convince you that super high refresh rates make a difference are coming! (I miss got, when it was good).

    There are 12 frames on screen for every one you can perceive! I totally agree that having a few extra frames is helpful, but this is getting like men's razors now, at some point you do get diminishing returns. You've given up resolution and image quality for a 4ms frame time when you can't perceive much less than 40ms (total time not latency).
    Blurbusters disagrees
    https://www.blurbusters.com/4k-120hz-with-bonus-240hz-and-480hz-modes/

    Getting to 480Hz would bring LCD's on par to CRT's we are still quite a number of years away from catching up to what we once had.

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    Re: Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    Back in the day when people i knew was on LCD screens, and i was still on my CRT.
    Well i had a hard time looking at their BS screens as i was used to +200 FPS / +200 Hz, i had the same problems with early LCD TVs as i was looking at my CRT screen for most of the day.

    It is only lately i have been able to digest LCD screens at 144 Hz, so lucky my CRT lasted as long as it did.
    But yes, when it died i did look for a new CRT, but really it was not really happening for those by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato-2 View Post
    Blurbusters disagrees
    https://www.blurbusters.com/4k-120hz...d-480hz-modes/

    Getting to 480Hz would bring LCD's on par to CRT's we are still quite a number of years away from catching up to what we once had.
    And further to that: https://www.blurbusters.com/blur-bus...mple-and-hold/ from 2017.

    10KHz in our lifetimes? Probably not (at least for average consumers)... 280Hz doesn't seem that impressive in comparison though ;-)

    We're still in the Stone Age regarding displays, perhaps.
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    Re: Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentle Viking View Post
    Back in the day when people i knew was on LCD screens, and i was still on my CRT.
    Well i had a hard time looking at their BS screens as i was used to +200 FPS / +200 Hz, i had the same problems with early LCD TVs as i was looking at my CRT screen for most of the day.

    It is only lately i have been able to digest LCD screens at 144 Hz, so lucky my CRT lasted as long as it did.
    But yes, when it died i did look for a new CRT, but really it was not really happening for those by then.
    While I somewhat miss my old 21" Sony CRT, I definitely don't miss its size and weight or the heat it produced. I can live with 144 Hz until something above 300 Hz comes along (as well as a graphics card capable of producing those frame rates in games).

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    Re: Asus starts selling the 280Hz TUF Gaming VG279QM monitor

    My old 21" Ilyama CRT still holds it's own, shame it's so heavy and deep.

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