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The best news of 10th Gen iCore is going to be lower prices for the equivalent hardware.
The bad news will (likely) be that only top-end chipsets/motherboards will be available on release, undoing those savings until the summer (I hope).
What I'm looking forward to Intel's moving off of 14nm, at which point Intel and AMD will both be able to really push and compete with ech other. Will be very good times for performance increases and price competition. Hopefully that'll happen before I die...
so bit of mis-advertising per usual of not a like for like :-( so 25% gain attributed to 2 extra cores and 5% from elsewhere IPC/architecture gains but only upto.
Not the catchiest of headlines.Quote:
25% gain attributed to 2 extra cores and 5% from elsewhere IPC/architecture gains but only upto.
I think the 5% is from better factory overclocking given the increased TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMMEASURES
Probably makes for an even less catchy headline though :)
Are we really expecting any meaningful volumes of 10nm on the desktop? I'm pretty sure we're waiting on Intel's 7nm for that, with 10nm still not clocking high enough for desktop use.Quote:
until it can deliver a 10nm successor for enthusiast desktop users.
Remember when Intel bragged about how much more efficient their latest chip was? That's all our of the window now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixI think the 5% is from better factory overclocking given the increased TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMMEASURES
Probably makes for an even less catchy headline though :)
Are we really expecting any meaningful volumes of 10nm on the desktop? I'm pretty sure we're waiting on Intel's 7nm for that, with 10nm still not clocking high enough for desktop use.Quote:
until it can deliver a 10nm successor for enthusiast desktop users.
Yeah - this is back to the days of Pentium IV levels of garbage, "Look how fast we are" while the chip is generating enough heat to melt it's own heatsink lolQuote:
Originally Posted by gagagaRemember when Intel bragged about how much more efficient their latest chip was? That's all our of the window now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixI think the 5% is from better factory overclocking given the increased TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMMEASURES
Probably makes for an even less catchy headline though :)
Are we really expecting any meaningful volumes of 10nm on the desktop? I'm pretty sure we're waiting on Intel's 7nm for that, with 10nm still not clocking high enough for desktop use.Quote:
until it can deliver a 10nm successor for enthusiast desktop users.
Nope, this is still Skylake don\'t forget. Most of the gains from extra cores, the majority of the rest I suspect would be from clock speeds. Perhaps they\'ve included performance improvements for hardware vs software security exploit fixes too?Quote:
Originally Posted by PMMEASURES
Hmm true, that said it dawned on me though we talking 5% over 10 Core's so 5%/10 = 0.5% per core ouch sounds worse and if there is a Mhz up lift then ouch that might be a negative % on IPC per core. just all the gain from clocking and increased cores. :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by gagagaRemember when Intel bragged about how much more efficient their latest chip was? That's all our of the window now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixI think the 5% is from better factory overclocking given the increased TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by PMMEASURES
Probably makes for an even less catchy headline though :)
Are we really expecting any meaningful volumes of 10nm on the desktop? I'm pretty sure we're waiting on Intel's 7nm for that, with 10nm still not clocking high enough for desktop use.Quote:
until it can deliver a 10nm successor for enthusiast desktop users.
[QUOTE=watercooled;47129]This is what I was wondering, are those improvements compared with the older chips when they were first released or after they've been nerfed to fix the security exploits...Quote:
Originally Posted by PMMEASURES
It's also comical how they've stuck cinebench in there, that 0.25 uptick is primarily down to having 2 more cores....
Still doesn't change my view that I'm better off going AMD anyway but I doubt intel will have much to worry about financially, non tech savvy users will 'know' the intel name more often than the amd one sadly.
Headline's wrong. Slide says 'projections' and 'expected', these aren't actual results. Intel must love how tech reporting works; toss this out, call it a leak, watch everyone report it as fact.
Besides that: 125w 'TDP' and 250w boost? Goodness.
Ridiculously poor power/heat efficiency. More Intel re-heated 14nm crap
Bear in mind that the courts made Intel put their fiddles at the bottom of the slides.
So they ran one with all the security updates and one without for starters....
And as for P4 knocking.... I still have a P4 laptop. A desktop P4 in a laptop. I think I'm going to take it apart and use the heatsink as an anti tank slug.
That TDP.... Sheesh I'd rather get a Threadripper if I wanted to consume that amount of power.
I am actually stunned, I thought those all melted themselves by now. The only other person I know who was unfortunate enough to get a laptop like that had it replaced under warranty multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot
lol I've got an old toshiba sat p30 with a 3.3ghz p4 under the hood tooQuote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixI am actually stunned, I thought those all melted themselves by now. The only other person I know who was unfortunate enough to get a laptop like that had it replaced under warranty multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiot