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    IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Growth in 2019 marks a turnaround after a seven year slump but will it last?
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Don't forget the strong AMD showing has had an effect as well
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Don't forget the strong AMD showing has had an effect as well
    That was my first thought as well. That Intel were not releasing anything worth upgrading to will have meant people held on to existing systems for much longer. Now there's competition and real reason to upgrade, people will at least consider it.

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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Don't forget the strong AMD showing has had an effect as well
    Yes there is finally a reason to think about upgrading my 3570k - Intel really have done little to move the market forward in the mean time. Nice to see the market finally move on from 4 core.
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    In reply to both above comments I have been so pleased with the 2600 + B450 combo I got last year that I got another in the sales just after Christmas. Under £250 for 16 gig of memory a 512 gig nvme ssd and 6c12t at around 3.8 ghz boost
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    I'd say the 7 year slump is also probably down to PCs being 'good enough' for a long time now. For web browsing, Microsoft office and light productivity even a 7 year old dual core will be more than adequate and that's what most people's experiences would be. Win7 support (and corporate upgrade cycles) probably account more for the uptick as mentioned in the article more than anything AMD has brought lately.
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhaoman View Post
    I'd say the 7 year slump is also probably down to PCs being 'good enough' for a long time now. For web browsing, Microsoft office and light productivity even a 7 year old dual core will be more than adequate and that's what most people's experiences would be. Win7 support (and corporate upgrade cycles) probably account more for the uptick as mentioned in the article more than anything AMD has brought lately.
    Agreeing to a point but in the case of Hexus peeps who are more knowledgeable the AMD upturn has driven it more
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    In reply to both above comments I have been so pleased with the 2600 + B450 combo I got last year that I got another in the sales just after Christmas. Under £250 for 16 gig of memory a 512 gig nvme ssd and 6c12t at around 3.8 ghz boost
    That must have been a pretty good deal. I've been looking and priced up a similar setup (with the SSD swapped for new PSU and a 3600) and I'm looking at more like £350~£400 with decent MB/RAM.
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    That must have been a pretty good deal. I've been looking and priced up a similar setup (with the SSD swapped for new PSU and a 3600) and I'm looking at more like £350~£400 with decent MB/RAM.
    3600 is a big jump to be fair in the price. Asus B450 board was under £60. 2600 was £100 SSD was erm under 50 as was ram
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    3600 is a big jump to be fair in the price. Asus B450 board was under £60. 2600 was £100 SSD was erm under 50 as was ram
    Fair. I think RAM prices have gone up (or i'm looking at more expensive stuff). I had heard it was a good idea to buy decent board for Ryzen so was looking closer to £80. Is this not the case?
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    Fair. I think RAM prices have gone up (or i'm looking at more expensive stuff). I had heard it was a good idea to buy decent board for Ryzen so was looking closer to £80. Is this not the case?
    I have had no issues with these boards. 4 ram slots - and basically as much as I need on them. The m.2 is gen3 x 4 so with my ssd's I get decent speeds. One is in "work" pc other is in "music" pc and is a huge step up from old system it has replaced (xeon X5670 etc.)
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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Someone needs to make a graph of AMD's IPC improvements, and compare it to new shipment rates...

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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    I think it comes down to a few factors, slow improvements and hardware and then high prices.

    For me my 3570k lasted well compared to generations afterwards and when it finally got the point of thinking about an upgrade ram prices made it not worth it. Due to intels policy of new processor = new chipset it also ruled out upgrades on that path. This all added about 2-3 years to my upgrade cycle.

    In that time Ryzens just got better and better and as the Ryzen 3*** series became available ram was at a sensible price and the rest is history. Good news is also I do have a probably upgrade path with an x570 board as its likely a few more generations of processors will work as well as the 3950x being a thing.

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    Re: IDC and Gartner comment on PC sales bounce in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    I have had no issues with these boards. 4 ram slots - and basically as much as I need on them. The m.2 is gen3 x 4 so with my ssd's I get decent speeds. One is in "work" pc other is in "music" pc and is a huge step up from old system it has replaced (xeon X5670 etc.)
    Thanks for the info. I can put together a 2600 system for £250 (without PSU) as you suggested but I want mine mainly for gaming so I think the 3600 is probably worth the stretch for me. I'll probably wait for the end of the year anyway and then just replace everything. Only the case and maybe GPU is worth keeping now.
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