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    Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Intel Arctic Sound workstation cards will feature one, two or four 'tiles', draw up to 500W.
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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    won't be cheap then that's for sure
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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    I'm really hoping this isn't true - that TDP at the top end is crazy high - a 2080 ti is only 285W. Also since when was 48V a part of the PC PSU standard. Something doesn't add up here...
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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I'm really hoping this isn't true - that TDP at the top end is crazy high - a 2080 ti is only 285W. Also since when was 48V a part of the PC PSU standard. Something doesn't add up here...
    Could be Intel are targetting the high-end AI / DataCentre marketplace with the 500W / 48V parts, rather than going after consumers?

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I'm really hoping this isn't true - that TDP at the top end is crazy high - a 2080 ti is only 285W. Also since when was 48V a part of the PC PSU standard. Something doesn't add up here...
    48V is standard in the server side. It is for example the voltage used in PoE devices, so a lot of servers and other devices have PSUs that support 48V

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I'm really hoping this isn't true - that TDP at the top end is crazy high - a 2080 ti is only 285W. Also since when was 48V a part of the PC PSU standard. Something doesn't add up here...
    It is a 19" rack power standard.

    12V is the other rack DC standard, so possibly none of this is for consumers.

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Electrically, I think you'd really struggle to do 500V @ 12V using standard 8 Pin PCIE connectors. I mean, each connector supplies at most 150W, with another 75W from the slot, so you'd be looking at a 3 PCIE power connector card. I'm not sure if that's ever been done before.

    So yeah, I think a 48V PSU requirement is probably right, and this card goes in the "exoctic datacenter processor" category. That's kinda supported by the use of HBMe2 memory, which tends to be datacenter oriented (yeah, HBM has been used on the Vega cards, but even though I like my Vega56, it's not like it sold well...)

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Quote Originally Posted by habilain View Post
    Electrically, I think you'd really struggle to do 500V @ 12V using standard 8 Pin PCIE connectors. I mean, each connector supplies at most 150W, with another 75W from the slot, so you'd be looking at a 3 PCIE power connector card. I'm not sure if that's ever been done before.
    It's been done a few times. Usually the super-overclocking variants of top end cards (vega, 2080ti, etc) have 3 8-pin power connectors.

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    So how much has Raja ripped from AMD, any guesses?

    If it's even barely average, they must have infringed alot. Very short space of time with practically no knowledge (no, not the integrated gpu they have made a few years)

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoyo69 View Post
    So how much has Raja ripped from AMD, any guesses?
    It strikes me that AMD are doing very nicely without him, and Intel is now the pinnacle of GPU hype with nothing to back it up.

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    If this is a slide that is meant to incite hype, it does completely the opposite.

    The fact that intels first ever GPU (the DG1 was just another Intel "look, we did release something") is going to feel like a Fermi/Fury disaster level of hype and failure.

    And some media are basically doing this:

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    chiplets ... like a Ryzen to Threadripper kinda thing then?

    1 chiplet for basic cards PCI express powered
    2 chiplets for gamers... with some kinda... infinity fabriccy kinds thing..... joining them together

    4 chiplets for data centres...

    makes sense.

    No one has ever done anything like that


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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    chiplets ... like a Ryzen to Threadripper kinda thing then?

    1 chiplet for basic cards PCI express powered
    2 chiplets for gamers... with some kinda... infinity fabriccy kinds thing..... joining them together

    4 chiplets for data centres...

    makes sense.

    No one has ever done anything like that


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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    It's been my impression that the general consensus regarding Raja Koduri leaving was the engineering loss was offset with the issues he was causing on the management side of RTG.

    If there's any one individual who's departure from AMD would have left a lasting impact, it's probably Jim Keller.

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    Re: Intel Xe graphics cards will be chiplet based says leaked slide

    Eh, 500W has been done before successfully on both air and liquid cooling. Titan Z and 295X2 both needed 500 W, and only had 2 8-pin connectors*. Stick a AIO water cooler and 3 8-pin connectors on it and it'll work fine

    * By "cooled successfully", I'm leaning on the NCIX tech tips video for the titan Z ("barely audible") and the Hexus review finding the 295X2 to be quieter than a 290X. Unfortunately, the 295X2 whupped the titan Z so hard few samples made it out for review

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