All we know about the Dyson CoVent ventilator
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A Dyson spokesperson has said CoVent machines will be ready from early April.
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Looks to be a world of difference between the Dyson and Gtech approaches.
I'm not qualified to make a judgement on whether these things can be over or under engineered - but hope whoever steps up make these things, manages to provide the steady supply of reliable devices needed to avoid unnecessary deaths.
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KultiVator
Looks to be a world of difference between the Dyson and Gtech approaches.
I'm not qualified to make a judgement on whether these things can be over or under engineered - but hope whoever steps up make these things, manages to provide the steady supply of reliable devices needed to avoid unnecessary deaths.
I always like the definition of a good engineer as someone who could do for a quid what any idiot can do for a tenner. By that metric, the Gtech one looks pretty awesome. Lots of standard and some 3D printed parts on there, and it sounds like they will be opening up the design in which case we can expect it to evolve pretty fast.
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I would trust the reliability of the Gtech products over Dyson! ;)
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
I would trust the reliability of the Gtech products over Dyson! ;)
I'm sure the Dyson would be reliable for years to come. That's kind of the problem, we only need something that is reliable for the next few months, and maintainable with bits you would find laying about in a hospital.
Kind of like the 80's "The Great Egg Race" program but with rather higher stakes :D
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DanceswithUnix
I'm sure the Dyson would be reliable for years to come. That's kind of the problem, we only need something that is reliable for the next few months, and maintainable with bits you would find laying about in a hospital.
Kind of like the 80's "The Great Egg Race" program but with rather higher stakes :D
Shame their proper products probably don't last years either! ;):P
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While I applaud the UK companies making ventilators quickly I do find it a little annoying that it would seem the UK are paying for 15k units but essentially giving 4k away to other countries.... at the very least I'm hoping that Dyson and others are offering these things up at cost to the UK rather than the usual 'medical markup'(ventilators seem to sell for £25,000 by the looks of it, they don't cost anywhere near that to make)
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Shame their proper products probably don't last years either! ;):P
I hear Dyson's recent stuff isn't so good. Shame, our DC04 must now be 20 years old and still works just fine.
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I like how simple the gtech design is. There are a lot of different settings involved with venting a patient properly, beyond just squeezing some air in to them, but there's no reason the control software for their setup couldn't be programmed to work. It also needs a clear readout of what those settings are, and easy adjustability for overworked medical staff.
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The real issue here is that Dyson is a piece of work.
Why is there so much publicity on this? There are EXISTING manufacturers which put their offer in and it wasnt reviewed in time... the government literally ignored existing and went straight to dyson and accepted it.
Look at all the sudden publicity when dyson havent provided a single thing yet! This is really wrong, publicise it WHEN they deliver and we really shouldnt be having people develop new ventilators and shipping version 0 products.
We dont have enough NHS staff that are trained for working ventilators, we are now going to have a situation where there are different types of ventilators making training even more difficult! Its a waste of time and it seems a publicity stunt for the company (and dyson himself) who has shown they dont care about being british (neither do I) when they relocated straight away after pushing for brexit they then go to singapore.
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DanceswithUnix
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Shame their proper products probably don't last years either! ;):P
I hear Dyson's recent stuff isn't so good. Shame, our DC04 must now be 20 years old and still works just fine.
I have a 14 year old regularly-used DC08 that's still fine. If memory serves, manufacturing was relocated for later ranges.
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Hicks12
The real issue here is that Dyson is a piece of work.
Why is there so much publicity on this? There are EXISTING manufacturers which put their offer in and it wasnt reviewed in time... the government literally ignored existing and went straight to dyson and accepted it.
You must have missed articles such as this one, where "a consortium of more than a dozen companies aims to build ventilators based on two existing designs" (The Ventilator Challenge UK working with Penlon and Smiths) - the Dyson order isn't to the exclusion of the other parties, whose efforts have had just as much publicity (at least as far as the Beeb articles go).
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Blimey , seems one of our neighbours was taken into hospital last night with suspected Corvid.
I hear he has been put on one of those new Dyson ventilators and is now picking up nicely.
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mers
Blimey , seems one of our neighbours was taken into hospital last night with suspected Corvid.
I hear he has been put on one of those new Dyson ventilators and is now picking up nicely.
A Dyson spokesperson has said CoVent machines will be ready from early April.
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chinf
You must have missed
articles such as this one, where "a consortium of more than a dozen companies aims to build ventilators based on two existing designs" (The Ventilator Challenge UK working with Penlon and Smiths) - the Dyson order isn't to the exclusion of the other parties, whose efforts have had just as much publicity (at least as far as the Beeb articles go).
That article specifically titles Dyson and says Dyson everywhere, this is what I mean!Why is dyson so important here when its just a basic company who will go outside of UK for tax breaks anyway
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I was talking about the new Dyson products not lasting as long as older products they made!
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TeePee
A Dyson spokesperson has said CoVent machines will be ready from early April.
Its a joke I think.