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    Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    And it has shown off its PS5 retail game case designs for the first time.
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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    looks like we will see more PS exclusives on Epic Store ... Spider Man or GoW first ?

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    $70....

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Just another reason to not buy the PS5 then eh.

    Why reputable companies are now throwing money at these anti consumer sharks I don't know. Actually maybe a do - they are anti consumer but pro making tonnes of money for themselves. Fair play.

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Just another reason to not buy the PS5 then eh.

    Why reputable companies are now throwing money at these anti consumer sharks I don't know. Actually maybe a do - they are anti consumer but pro making tonnes of money for themselves. Fair play.
    I can't see any anti consumer sharks in this story.

    Epic, doing a good job breaking an anti consumer monopoly.
    Sony, putting money into games/studios to make more games for the consumer.

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Percy1983 View Post
    I can't see any anti consumer sharks in this story.

    Epic, doing a good job breaking an anti consumer monopoly.
    Sony, putting money into games/studios to make more games for the consumer.
    Ummm... nope? Epic does not care about consumers at all. They care about the money, just like Valve. But unlike Steam, the Epic Store does not have or intends to add any user reviews. Because that's bad for the profits

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    I wonder if this money will mean better optimisation for AMD CPUs and GPUs in Unreal Engine,which is natively biased for Nvidia cards,due to a deep integration of various Nvidia specific features?

    Quote Originally Posted by Percy1983 View Post
    I can't see any anti consumer sharks in this story.

    Epic, doing a good job breaking an anti consumer monopoly.
    Sony, putting money into games/studios to make more games for the consumer.
    You do appreciate Epic has basically used its financial backing to basically screwover Unity,Cryengine and every other 3rd party games engine out there?? They basically dropped their fees so low,and then have given financial incentives for UE based games,to use the engine(lower fees on the Epic store). This means the other companies which actually rely on actually making money from licensing their engines can't and it is slowly driving them out of business. It is moving to an essential monopoly of the game engine market. Eventually this means the only game engines which will remain,will be those funded by massive games publishers such as EA,and everyone else unless they can make their own engine,will end up using UE.

    The worst thing,is UE is massively influenced by Nvidia and stuff such as Gameworks,etc integrated at the engine level. This means without optimisation by a developer(or AMD helping out),the PC version runs better natively on Nvidia GPUs. Epic have added an "AMD fork" recently,but it's nowhere as well developed as the main version.


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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I wonder if this money will mean better optimisation for AMD CPUs and GPUs in Unreal Engine,which is natively biased for Nvidia cards,due to a deep integration of various Nvidia specific features?



    You do appreciate Epic has basically used its financial backing to basically screwover Unity,Cryengine and every other 3rd party games engine out there?? They basically dropped their fees so low,and then have given financial incentives for UE based games,to use the engine(lower fees on the Epic store). This means the other companies which actually rely on actually making money from licensing their engines can't and it is slowly driving them out of business. It is moving to an essential monopoly of the game engine market. Eventually this means the only game engines which will remain,will be those funded by massive games publishers such as EA,and everyone else unless they can make their own engine,will end up using UE.

    The worst thing,is UE is massively influenced by Nvidia and stuff such as Gameworks,etc integrated at the engine level. This means without optimisation by a developer(or AMD helping out),the PC version runs better natively on Nvidia GPUs. Epic have added an "AMD fork" recently,but it's nowhere as well developed as the main version.
    That is truly shocking and should not be allowed to happen.. why cant this be looked into by a body like the monopolies commission?

    Soon every game will look the same (GOW) and also have no room for any innervation. and what happens when the competition is gone, the licenses will go sky high.
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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens Nest View Post
    That is truly shocking and should not be allowed to happen.. why cant this be looked into by a body like the monopolies commission?

    Soon every game will look the same (GOW) and also have no room for any innervation. and what happens when the competition is gone, the licenses will go sky high.
    Look at how long it took for governments to look into gambling in games?? Stuff like the abuse of patents by Rambus,happened for over a decade before the US government stepped in.


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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    So to clarify:

    A Chinese state owned company having a large stake in Epic is a bad thing.

    Epic selling a stake to a non-Chinese company, thus reducing the influence said Chinese company has, is also a bad thing?

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Look at how long it took for governments to look into gambling in games?? Stuff like the abuse of patents by Rambus,happened for over a decade before the US government stepped in.
    Probably would start with a petition then it takes years to even get it discussed in the White house, Houses of parliament e.t.c.
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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Well thing is... all consoles runs on AMD hardware... so what is the problem.. for licenses.. any developer or game maker that is any serious would go for the best engine that works for the game he or she would like to develop then later on publish.... a good developer would give his or her fans what they like... what they really like...

    Solution is simple.. stop buying games if you in advance know they are trash.. stop buying them... go for the few actual quality games out there instead, new or old.. it is mostly on the consumers end in what we get, and that is about it when it get to it... the game makers would really like to suck up to us and give us what we want if we demand it... but we do not... we just play the next super hero game because it is supposed to be 'cool' stop being sheeps.. stop accusing companies about stuff when we essentially decide to buy bad games as it is.

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens Nest View Post
    Soon every game will look the same (GOW) and also have no room for any innervation.
    In may ways, they already do - Battle Royale/survival and First Person Shooter games about zombies, maybe with a few werewolves and vampires thrown in for even more vapid cliche nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    So to clarify:
    A Chinese state owned company having a large stake in Epic is a bad thing.
    Epic selling a stake to a non-Chinese company, thus reducing the influence said Chinese company has, is also a bad thing?
    Yup... If something even mentions Epic, people will hate it and decry it and strongly condemn it, no matter what. Epic could be giving away free ventialtors to every hospital in the world, while curing AIDS and Cancer, and there will still be complaints about it.
    Just shut up and get back to supporting the corporate giants of Amazon, Steam and so on, because they at least try to lie about the evil things they're doing - They put actual effort into making you not realise you're selling your soul, because that's considered caring for their customers.
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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Just another reason to not buy the PS5 then eh.

    Why reputable companies are now throwing money at these anti consumer sharks I don't know. Actually maybe a do - they are anti consumer but pro making tonnes of money for themselves. Fair play.
    there is ZERO reason to buy PS5 at start
    overpriced and all of the exclusives comes out in 2021

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    Re: Sony makes a $250m investment in Epic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by half_empty_soul View Post
    overpriced and all of the exclusives comes out in 2021
    There is technically zero reason to buy most things on release, though, as it's usually overpriced.

    Also, if it comes out on the PS Store and Epic, is it still an 'exclusive'?
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