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8C/16T APU is very similar in perf to the Ryzen 7 PRO 3700 in single/multi core tests.
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8C/16T APU is very similar in perf to the Ryzen 7 PRO 3700 in single/multi core tests.
I sort of wish they'd balanced the gpu/cpu side a little more towards the gpu... I'm currently running an ancient A10 so it it would be a heck of an upgrade for me, and I realise the 8CUs in this are stronger than the 11 in the 3400G... But I do think they could have made room for the 11 (or more) upgraded CUs and lopped off a core.
That would indeed be nice. I'm hardly ever CPU bound but if I ever game I will become GPU bound quite quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke7
I remember I bought the last gen HP Envy 13" x360 with the Ryzen 5 3500U and it would throttle and leave the CPU clocks rather high whilst lowering the GPU clocks when trying to run a basic game (FFXIV) - it was running above 30fps before throttling but only around 10fps when throttled. Although not quite the same, it would have been nice if they could make the GPU stronger relative to the CPU. Needless to say, neither matter when it throttles in less than 5 minutes so I returned it very quickly. It's a shame as it was such a nice machine.
This year's HP Envy with the new Renoir Ryzen series seem very adequate though but again, still more CPU power than I'll ever need but lacking a bit in GPU power for it to be genuinely useful.
I'd imagine this APU design is closer to the 8c16t CPU's used in the new consoles than the desktop 3700/3800's, especially with the cut down cache...and gives a pretty good idea of the consoles real CPU performance, relative to a desktop parts.
Whereas I'm fine with a CPU heavy setup, I'm tempted to get one for my next work machine. I need enough graphics to drive two (preferably three) Displayport/hdmi monitors with some text editors. I just need to see some GCC code compile benchmarks on these things, though frankly from seeing what a 2200G can do I imagine these will be very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke7
That's a fair enough point, I guess it works both ways really like the other reply to me said. Some of us need more gpu and less cpu, whilst some of us need max cpu and can do without gpu... I guess its a really hard thing to balance in terms of what will sell plus what they can physically do with how their CCXs work. Be nice if they could do both though lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnixWhereas I'm fine with a CPU heavy setup, I'm tempted to get one for my next work machine. I need enough graphics to drive two (preferably three) Displayport/hdmi monitors with some text editors. I just need to see some GCC code compile benchmarks on these things, though frankly from seeing what a 2200G can do I imagine these will be very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke7
Bummer...Wasted the gpu again with wimp 8cu when it needed 16cu. 65w....LOL. You should have spent whatever you could get into 95w on GPU. That should be your goal for a desktop that doesn't care about power. This isn't a laptop model. WTF were you thinking? This could have been the HTPC chip to get, but...they AMD'd it again...Yeah, I'm coining a new term...Dang you just AMD'd it. At least pricing seems to be coming UP a bit. Maybe they'll have a quarter where NET INCOME is somewhere near their current stock price (way over it's worth!). RAISE your prices AMD.
I guess if they are getting about the same number of complaints from both sides then they balanced it about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke7
The die photo for Renoir look fairly balanced to me though:
https://en.wikichip.org/w/images/1/15/renoir_die.png
That compares to the previous Raven Ridge which looks like a GPU with a bit of CPU lost in the middle. I guess with half the transistors it was a bit more of a compromise. Nice chips, but my 2200G is back in the box waiting for a job it can be a bit underpowered at :)
https://en.wikichip.org/w/images/c/c...notated%29.png
very impressive numbers for the APU's, that is actually giving me a hope for a big improvement on Zen 3 full fat desktops CPU
Overclocked Ryzen 7 4700G:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-AM....481216.0.html
Why does this give you hope that the 3000 series hasn't already?Quote:
Originally Posted by half_empty_soul
I’m on an i5-3470 in my server at the mo so I’m all about the CPU side rather than GPU so I’ll be looking at the reviews and benchmarks before I decide what I’m doing.