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    Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    This is why Android was the focus of the recent Xbox Wire blog post about cloud gaming.
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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Nope, it's because Stadia/xCloud are a subscription service and each of those games could have in game purchases and because of that, unless Apple gets its 30%, it will not allow it in the App Store.

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Nope, it's because Stadia/xCloud are a subscription service and each of those games could have in game purchases and because of that, unless Apple gets its 30%, it will not allow it in the App Store.
    Yup and they can't leverage 30% on people streaming games as easily. I mean you'd be getting whatever games they add without an extra 30% each time
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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Anti competitive much.

    I wouldn't mind seeing these never come to Apple devices as it might tempt users away from Apple and force them to change tack when their sales take a knock.

    What will most likely happen is Google and MS will hand over a big bag of cash to Apple to allow them cause they will worry about missing potential customer base for the services and Apple wins again.

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanoe View Post
    Anti competitive much.

    I wouldn't mind seeing these never come to Apple devices as it might tempt users away from Apple and force them to change tack when their sales take a knock.

    What will most likely happen is Google and MS will hand over a big bag of cash to Apple to allow them cause they will worry about missing potential customer base for the services and Apple wins again.
    But then you will have to pay a fortune to use the services over and above Android and people will move anyhoo? Or that's supposed to be what happens...
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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    This does seem like it's being 'overly protective' and has an undertone of basically Apple being unhappy that 'better' games will be available on their phone, without them getting a cut, meaning people won't buy their apple arcade thing.

    I know we've got investigations going on but this really does scream as anticompetitive and it's very close to what got MS sanctions on windows imo.


    Pretty much everywhere this is being posted has comments which are basically saying Apple are in the wrong here....

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Nope, it's because Stadia/xCloud are a subscription service and each of those games could have in game purchases and because of that, unless Apple gets its 30%, it will not allow it in the App Store.
    This is exactly it.

    Lies and greed.

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Microsoft should call their bluff and submit a list of games.

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    This does seem like it's being 'overly protective' and has an undertone of basically Apple being unhappy that 'better' games will be available on their phone, without them getting a cut, meaning people won't buy their apple arcade thing.

    I know we've got investigations going on but this really does scream as anticompetitive and it's very close to what got MS sanctions on windows imo.


    Pretty much everywhere this is being posted has comments which are basically saying Apple are in the wrong here....
    This is exactly my problem, they got out of the homogenised power and data connector enforced by the EU.

    They get away with an anti consumer repair network.

    They also get away with pushing a monopoly that puts their own apps or preferred apps first. Google got shafted with Google Shopping and other price comparison.

    Really wish Governments would start taking Apple down a peg or three.

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post

    Really wish Governments would start taking Apple down a peg or three.
    Yeah, and taxing them (and other companies like them) properly too wouldn't hurt either....

    You forgot they got a reprieve on the fine for the Irish tax 'scam' recently too.... you know that minor requirement of back payment of £11.5 BILLION in taxes that they didn't pay due to backroom dealings in Ireland....

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Yeah, and taxing them (and other companies like them) properly too wouldn't hurt either....

    You forgot they got a reprieve on the fine for the Irish tax 'scam' recently too.... you know that minor requirement of back payment of £11.5 BILLION in taxes that they didn't pay due to backroom dealings in Ireland....
    And people wonder why me and so many others don't like Apple - yet by their products in droves (there is a deliberate joke there)
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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    I bet netflix gets a free pass because they got established before apple realised it could enforce a monopoly like this, and the majority of iphone owners would be miffed if netflix stopped working. A new use case like game streaming, OTOH...

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    I sorely want to use my iPad Pro to play xCloud. There is ZERO way Apple can do a "positive spin" on this. The games stream so there is no issue with their security. It's simply that users would download the free Xbox xCloud app and play. Apple Store would miss out on any revenue from all those games being played.
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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    While I agree Apple are anti competitive and pro lock-in, I fail to see how you can successfully stand up a monopoly charge on a platform that's around 25% of the market.

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    While I agree Apple are anti competitive and pro lock-in, I fail to see how you can successfully stand up a monopoly charge on a platform that's around 25% of the market.
    If you're stuck with an iphone for the duration of your contract that doesn't matter much. The app store gets 100% of app purchases by iphone users, same way a water company might be serving a small area but it's still the only choice for anyone living there

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    Re: Apple App Store guidelines mean no xCloud / Stadia on iOS

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    If you're stuck with an iphone for the duration of your contract that doesn't matter much. The app store gets 100% of app purchases by iphone users, same way a water company might be serving a small area but it's still the only choice for anyone living there
    That's a false comparison. When you first take out a contract (or buy a phone direct,) you have a choice between many different models, of which only Apples tie you into their ecosystem. At that point you can decide if you want to be locked into that ecosystem for the duration of your contract or phone ownership.

    With a water company if I live in an area I have no choice at all, I either have a contract with Water Company A or I don't have water.

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