Intel launches 11th gen Core mobile processors with Iris Xe

[HEXUS]

Boasts of the "world's best processors for thin-and-light laptops." Intros the Intel Evo platform.

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[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I was reading the AT article on this,and I like how its not made obvious,its upto 50W,and still only 4C/8T.

[LSG501]

I was reading the AT article on this,and I like how its not made obvious,its upto 50W,and still only 4C/8T.

What you mean that AT (I assume you mean anand) avoided the important 'negative' stuff about Intel products... call me shocked lol /s

First thing I looked at was how many cores on the new intel, essentially Intel have sacrificed cpu cores to 'catch up' with AMD on the gpu front, lets be honest GPU performance on AMD could be better if it had a higher tdp allowance.

Still think I'd buy an AMD laptop over Intel if I had the choice....

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

What you mean that AT (I assume you mean anand) avoided the important 'negative' stuff about Intel products... call me shocked lol /s

First thing I looked at was how many cores on the new intel, essentially Intel have sacrificed cpu cores to 'catch up' with AMD on the gpu front, lets be honest GPU performance on AMD could be better if it had a higher tdp allowance.

Still think I'd buy an AMD laptop over Intel if I had the choice....

TBF,they did put it in the title,I meant Intel was not making it obvious,although sometimes they do still ignore AMD a bit.

I would get the Renoir based laptops over these,as they have more cores,so I can do some heavier stuff on them.

Also,plenty of laptops will have some form of dGPU for a reasonable price anyway.

[LSG501]

TBF,they did put it in the title,I meant Intel was not making it obvious,although sometimes they do still ignore AMD a bit.

I would get the Renoir based laptops over these,as they have more cores,so I can do some heavier stuff on them.

Also,plenty of laptops will have some form of dGPU for a reasonable price anyway.

TBF I'm in that 'weird' situation where I kind of keep feeling I should have a laptop (or more accurately a tablet pc) but at the same time I know I probably won't be using it much seeing as I work from home etc and I'll just go straight to the desktop even if it's just to browse the web lol...

With the current climate visiting clients is even less frequent than before too lol.

[DanceswithUnix]

, lets be honest GPU performance on AMD could be better if it had a higher tdp allowance.

I would expect it to be more RAM bandwidth limited. A lump of HBM on there would improve it no end, but probably get you into dGPU pricing.

[Tabbykatze]

This is like Nvidias Turing launch, advertising the extraneous features because the main part of the processor is still lagging.

I'm liking them advertising "New: Hardened hardware security"...

*stifling laughter*

[ik9000]

This is like Nvidias Turing launch, advertising the extraneous features because the main part of the processor is still lagging.

I'm liking them advertising "New: Hardened hardware security"...

*stifling laughter*

yeah, you can get a better view of it by going around and looking in through the backdoor they've left open for that.

[Xlucine]

Last but not least, TGL-U is the first mobile client SoC with CPU-attached PCIe Gen 4 interface and with up to four lanes.

That's a significant row back from the claim made in the slide (i.e. "1st mainstream CPU-attached PCIe gen 4")!

There's a sort-of die shot shown in the video at 2:17, and it's quite interesting - they could have easily squeezed another 4 cores in there without increasing die size too much. The performance demonstration they show is also a typical intel choice - they managed to find an AI-accelerated workload and they're calling it representative of "light content creation"!

I'm pleased by the GPU performance - AMD improved over the 3000 series with 4000 ryzen, but not as much as they could have so 5000 ryzen should be even better. Shame intel still isn't competing in CPU terms - "up to 4.3 GHz" will be the 50W turbo, so in long term workloads it'll be running at about the same frequency as ryzen except ryzen gets to run 8 cores in the same power budget

I would expect it to be more RAM bandwidth limited. A lump of HBM on there would improve it no end, but probably get you into dGPU pricing.

dGPU needs RAM of it's own though, and can't share RAM as easily - a couple gigs of GDDRX is probably comparable to a 1GB HBM L4 cache and you don't get the GPU for free.

I was reading the AT article on this,and I like how its not made obvious,its upto 50W,and still only 4C/8T.

I like their spot that 10nm "superfat" or whatever used to be 10nm++++!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I like their spot that 10nm "superfat" or whatever used to be 10nm++++!

SuperFIN! But probably is superfat compared to TSMC 7NM!! Maybe the + key on the printing press wore out??

[lumireleon]

next gen AMD 5 series will have Thunderbolt 3?

[3dcandy]

Why am I kinda just meh about these?

[DevDrake]

next gen AMD 5 series will have Thunderbolt 3?

not exactly. TB3 is intell stuff, however USB4 is compatible/similar, so the answer may be yes as well

Hmm, I wonder how they price these processors, because it looks nice as for the portable laptop heart.

[edmundhonda]

Why am I kinda just meh about these?

The top chip is a quadcore that just about matches the bottom end dGPUs, isn't that reason enough?

[Xlucine]

The top chip is a quadcore that just about matches the bottom end dGPUs, isn't that reason enough?

It should handily beat an MX250 or similar - ryzen 400 was already ahead of that, and if the numbers are true then this beats ryzen 4000. iGPU gaming has really come a long way - there's little point in more than 1080p in a 15" laptop what with the tiny screen, so we're not far off dGPUs being completely pointless in anything without an external monitor (at least for moderate refresh rates)