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    Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    In a recent blog post it confirmed a "new perpetual release for both Windows and Mac".
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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    UNtil Office 365 was released, each new version of Office brought something new to the table. However since 2013, 2016, 2019 and now 2022 are just forks from the mainline M365 development branch, the tri-annual version is just playing catchup only to be left behind again.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by mark_a_scott View Post
    UNtil Office 365 was released, each new version of Office brought something new to the table. However since 2013, 2016, 2019 and now 2022 are just forks from the mainline M365 development branch, the tri-annual version is just playing catchup only to be left behind again.
    yup, but so long as they keep adding the features to the perpetual version I don't mind the catchup if it avoids the lag you get with 365. There is crazy lag that I'm getting in daily use with O365 - and it's the proper version, not the cloud one so it's nothing to do with web traffic.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    We have Office 365 across the business. No lag. None. Zero. Nadda. We do have issues with OneDrive and shared Excel files, but that's a training issue for staff.

    Office experiences new functions often, it's just that people are probably not aware of them as they just continue to do what they've always done.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    We have Office 365 across the business. No lag. None. Zero. Nadda. We do have issues with OneDrive and shared Excel files, but that's a training issue for staff.

    Office experiences new functions often, it's just that people are probably not aware of them as they just continue to do what they've always done.
    we are get continual lag and screen freezes with anything requiring a menu or sub-menu to show, happens in word, excel, etc so it's not file related. It's nothing to do with new functions. Simply right-clicking to bring up the context menu then selecting anything from that menu is enough.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    We have Office 365 across the business. No lag. None. Zero. Nadda. We do have issues with OneDrive and shared Excel files, but that's a training issue for staff.

    Office experiences new functions often, it's just that people are probably not aware of them as they just continue to do what they've always done.
    we are get continual lag and screen freezes with anything requiring a menu or sub-menu to show, happens in word, excel, etc so it's not file related. It's nothing to do with new functions. Simply right-clicking to bring up the context menu then selecting anything from that menu is enough.
    That is odd if you're using the locally installed version.

    I swithced to 365 a few years back as only a few quid month and the kids needed it for school and uni. Got fed up installing cracks and things.

    I rarely use the online stuff/versions but I use Word, Excel, Outlook on a daily basis for work, and Access, Powerpoint, and Publisher now again.

    It's nice to always get updated features but to be honest even in a working environment I don't think I do anything differently or newer now that I haven't been doing for a good 15 years.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Then, of course, for those averse to both the subscription model and a fairly chunky cost, there's always the LibreOffice or OpenOffice route. Add something like Thunderbird or Mailbird Pro and you have a credible (though not identical) alternative, without worrying about cracks, or downloading 'unwanted passengers' with iffy software. My (limited) experience suggests incompatibilities are pretty limited these days, certainly for most users.
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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Why do i get the feeling this 'new' version of Office isn't going to be very offline friendly, if W10 is anything to go by it will be riddled with cloud stuff, content delivery, telemetry, online assistance, links to Bing, and a whole plethora of other added online 'features'.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    The key thing for me is that all my software should work 100% perfectly when I'm offline, or using a computer that hasn't been online for months. This goes for equally games and productivity apps. While I don't expect to be without internet for significant periods of time I much prefer not to be dependant on someone else's server.

    For security reasons I'm not allowed to connect my works laptop to a network or the internet so I have to send it back to the IT department every few months to reactivate the copy of Office 365 they installed on it instead of the standalone copy I asked for.

    At home I'll probably stick with my copies of Office 2000 & 2013. I've only found a couple of minor things that are in 2013 that aren't in 2000 that matter to me, and I've found nothing in O365 that's an improvement on O2013 for my use case.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by Euphonium View Post
    The key thing for me is that all my software should work 100% perfectly when I'm offline, or using a computer that hasn't been online for months. This goes for equally games and productivity apps. While I don't expect to be without internet for significant periods of time I much prefer not to be dependant on someone else's server.

    For security reasons I'm not allowed to connect my works laptop to a network or the internet so I have to send it back to the IT department every few months to reactivate the copy of Office 365 they installed on it instead of the standalone copy I asked for.

    At home I'll probably stick with my copies of Office 2000 & 2013. I've only found a couple of minor things that are in 2013 that aren't in 2000 that matter to me, and I've found nothing in O365 that's an improvement on O2013 for my use case.
    excel 2010 was a substantial improvement and the bug fixes in 2013 were welcome above that. The latest 365 features are useful if you spend a lot of time in excel. Not sure about the mandatory @ in all the formulae though (they really should add a toggle in the options for a "classic" mode IMO). If some of the newer formulae are in 2022 I might bite. Otherwise nah, I'll stick with 2010 at home and 365 via my work subscription (laggy though it is).

    I've raised the lag with our IT but understandably with wfh and all that palava it has not been top of their to-do list. I wondered if others were getting it and Zak33 posted similarly (unprompted by me) a few weeks back so I'm not going mad.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    I really don't understand the companies that use O365 not knowing who is reading their documents.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    Then, of course, for those averse to both the subscription model and a fairly chunky cost, there's always the LibreOffice or OpenOffice route. Add something like Thunderbird or Mailbird Pro and you have a credible (though not identical) alternative, without worrying about cracks, or downloading 'unwanted passengers' with iffy software. My (limited) experience suggests incompatibilities are pretty limited these days, certainly for most users.
    I've been using LibraOffice and before that, OpenOffice, for at least a decade now. Does all I need it to.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    I've been using LibraOffice and before that, OpenOffice, for at least a decade now. Does all I need it to.
    On and off, so have I. I did have issues about 10 years back with Calc just not working with some Excel features. From memory, some of it was conditional formatting. A customer couldn't get certain things to work, and after spending some hours checking my work I looked at what they were actually using, on site, and despite having told me Office 2010, it turned out they'd substituted OO Calc. Argh.
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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Amstrad View Post
    I really don't understand the companies that use O365 not knowing who is reading their documents.
    Business O365 != Consumer O365.

    We use O365 in the business (I have my own subscription too). There are some *very* big companies, some in Switzerland using O365. I've read their assessments. Microsoft are not spying.

    Re performance - lag must mean you're using virtualised apps, desktops, *very* slow storage or some other concotion. Worst we get is people working on 100 meg PP presentations at home and not understanding it take 30 seconds to save on their crappy home broadband. The product works fine for us.

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Quote Originally Posted by gagaga View Post
    Business O365 != Consumer O365.

    We use O365 in the business (I have my own subscription too). There are some *very* big companies, some in Switzerland using O365. I've read their assessments. Microsoft are not spying.

    Re performance - lag must mean you're using virtualised apps, desktops, *very* slow storage or some other concotion. Worst we get is people working on 100 meg PP presentations at home and not understanding it take 30 seconds to save on their crappy home broadband. The product works fine for us.
    No that's not what I mean. Stop jumping to assumptions. Does anyone know a way to record the screen?

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    Re: Microsoft readying 'Office 2022' for the subscription averse

    Me? I'll keep using LibreOffice...

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