Read more.Quote:
Meanwhile, Gigabyte and MSI have published statements on capacitor choices and stability.
Printable View
Read more.Quote:
Meanwhile, Gigabyte and MSI have published statements on capacitor choices and stability.
This was doing the rounds already in the 3080 threads. https://forums.hexus.net/hexus-news/421348-nvidia-partners-respond-geforce-rtx-3080-crash-issues-2.html#post4257961
testing on the consumer is right. It's all we've had in hardware and software for some time now. When the big boys (MS) do it and get away with it everyone else follows suit.
Does anyone trust electrolytic capacitors at all since 2010?
The huge dump of cheaply made caps onto the Western markets was so wide spread and I can't imagine what the big corporations had to do to keep it a secret from the main Press.
Nice one China....
I have never worked in capacitors,but otherwise when i was young and brave i have been known to solder extra components to computer hardware in the pursuit of more speed.
It take a steady hand soldering a wire to 1 leg of a IC on a motherboard :-)
And a proper soldering iron too, luckily i had both, now i just have a proper soldering iron and i would need glasses aside for the microscope to see the IC leg.
So the card is wild and unstable... that explains the low NVIDIA price to begin with.. a card that can not over clock?
Actually that was Taiwanese company and it was a spy story gone wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by quatermass
They stole the new formula from a Japanese manufacturer and didn't take the stabiliser solution.
Result the electrolyte broke down too early and turned into hydrogen gas, resulting in bad caps and bulging caps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague :edit: linkified.
Research paper covering it https://www.dfrsolutions.com/hubfs/D...an-Helmold.pdf
I mean you could just say that if all the AIBs had enough time to test with the proper drivers etc, that they would have adjusted vBios to not boost the chip beyond the point of stability. Maybe this is also a side effect of using the Samsung 8nm+ process?Quote:
Originally Posted by QuorTek
Considering the performance for the price I'd just keep it at stock thankqverymuch
All that for 30mhz tho.
The old overclocker in me would want to do the Cap mod and all Vmods lol but the now I am older wiser one would buy stock and leave as is chuckle.
I would be interested to know if any capacitor stacking yields gains maybe a 22u with 47u stacked in parallel for 20 caps.
Though big ups for using the soldering iron, I would have broken out the solder paste and hot air gun myself.
The problem is that the cards will try to overclock themselves using the Nvidia algorithm. If the software senses available temp and power headroom - They will boost, until hitting a defined maximum. Only problem being - overambitious confidence in the actual hardware. Resulting in crashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunnah
Not a murmur from the leather jacket on this car crash of a launch BTW.
No-one should be referring to them as "POSCAPs". In the words of BuildZoid, "... they're not POSCAPs, okay! POSCAPs are a very, very specific product line of capacitor from Panasonic, okay. Not every SMD capacitor on the planet Earth is a POSCAP. Actually, the vast majority of them isn't a POSCAP, okay!"Quote:
Originally Posted by HEXUS
Source: https://youtu.be/GPFKS8jNNh0?t=130
He goes on to clarify that most graphics cards do not use POSCAPs (which look very specific) but rather SP-Caps. Those are another brand by Panasonic, but at least it's accurate for some of the cards. I imagine that Gigabyte and MSI probably DO use SP-Caps in their designs.
POSCAPS - https://industrial.panasonic.com/ww/...acitors/poscap
SP-Caps - https://industrial.panasonic.com/ww/...acitors/sp-cap
but "it just works"?! Right? Right...? <nervous grin>Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmaheid
Yes, it seems like the leathered one used his oven for this stuff. Or maybe the hob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentle Viking
Not to mention his vast collection of highly specialised spatulas...Quote:
Originally Posted by philehidiotYes, it seems like the leathered one used his oven for this stuff. Or maybe the hob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentle Viking